Discussion about Paints, specifically Breeding Stock Paints

Wow this is an old thread.

Thank you for all your thoughts!
Skippy, I completely agree with you. If color is what sets a Paint apart from a QH, shouldn't a Paint have color?

Anyways, you have already heard my thoughts :)

A SBP can carry their colour gene even though they don't exhibit it. This applies to both tobiano and overo.
Overo is the only colour pattern that can trace its roots to the AQHA bloodlines. The colour pattern is linked with the sabino gene.
Tobiano is a completely different colour pattern that is not seen or classified in the same genetic sense.
If your overo has even one tobiano 6-7 generations back there is no possible way of considering it QH regardless of whether there is colour or not.
I have seen SBP overo's bred to AQHA and fully papered APHA foals be the result--fully equipped with colour pattern.
Why should SBP stallions not be allowed to breed? If they have gone out and shown and proven themselves a champion how is it any harder to produce colour from them than using a SBP mare on a fully coloured stallion? In fact, many APHA breeders will utalize a SBP simply because the chances of getting colour back are significantly higher than using a coloured mare on a coloured stallion (I am talking about overos).

As an example we had a solid paint in barn once (came from auction). He was gelding, not stud, btw. However he was well build bright sorrel with 4 socks, narrow blaze and --very bright blue eyes--. Not that "pale" blue typical for most paints, but true deep darker blue. Very, VERY beautiful (was sold in no time of course). Personally I've never seen such red coat/blue eyes combo before or after (and the BO got lots of horses for sale in barn). I bet such color combo in foals + accomplishments in dam/sir would make babies to sell with no problem.