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        05-15-2009, 02:15 PM
    Arthritis? Not a big concern at all many many brood mares have it and the vet has said its not a big deal.
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        05-15-2009, 02:16 PM
    To me, it depends on the location and severity of the arthritis. If it is very mild and the vet say's it is okay, then you could breed her. If the arthritis is moderate to severe (no matter the location) I would advise against it. I will also throw my 2 cents in that horses are very cheap to buy right now and you could end up with a very nice weanling or yearling at a sale for less than $100 in my area. However, if you are set on a foal from this particular mare, I understand that too ;p I would just make sure that the stallion complements her and that neither of them have serious conformational faults. Plus, if you plan on selling the foal in the future, papers are always a plus but not a necessity. Pictures of the mare and the stallion would help with our advice on whether it may be a good match or not. :)

    On another note, you might want to have the vet check to ensure that the arthritis is not a genetic thing that the foal might inherit.
        05-15-2009, 02:19 PM
    Well the poster was asking for opinions and we are giving them. I live in florida and here there are lots of horses that need homes and many of them very young, so why breed more unless there is a specific purpose, etc.
    County you say you breed a lot of foals every year. Perhaps there is a good market for the type of horse you breed, but just breeding a horse to have a foal with no concern for the bloodlines, disposition, etc is well just irresponsible. I am not saying that is what the original poster is doing, in fact they are asking for input. But I do see people doing this. Our local sherriffs dept had to seize horses from a lady with about 25 horses/ponies, mostly all broodmares with foals. She lost her land, had no money and just kept on breeding. They were all skinny and unhealthy. So I would err on the side of caution giving anyone advice thinknig about breeding.

    Yes its correct you can't learn something new until you try it, but at the same time now couldn't be a worse time to learn about "breeding" in most areas. The economy is shaky, free horses are everywhere and horse rescues are full. So I think all that can be something to think about it.

    I am glad you are a successful breeder and still able to find homes/jobs for all your foals, but its just not that way for everyone.

    I like the questions on the fugly horse website, makes lots of sense.

    I appreciate your thoughts county, I just feel a bit differently.
        05-15-2009, 02:21 PM
    Originally Posted by county    
    There is no right or wrong way to do things only different ways. And ya I'm a guy but my repro vet I work with is a woman with two kids. She's the one that told me horses and people are nothing alike as far as being pregnant. Now I suppose I could go with what someone on the internet says versus one of the top repro vets in this state but call me crazy I'll stick to the vet on the subject.
    So you are telling me that a horses anatomy, and physiological processes do not change at all while she is pregnant? Hmm interesting. That was the only point that I was trying to make. I was not comparing humans and horses or implying what they go through is exactly the same.
        05-15-2009, 02:22 PM
    Agree, smrobs - I said the same thing in my first post on this thread.
    Chelle said that she was interested in breeding that same mare until she discovered it had arthritis. This is concerning to me.

    Regarding various vets... careful who you listen to, and take opinions with a grain of salt. Various vets will have differing opinions on subjects.
    I had a vet out to look at Denny for a PPE in October. He said his teeth were okay, but to follow up in the Spring/early Summer to keep up with his dental work.
    I had a dentist out yesterday, and he was appalled at Denny's teeth - the back molars weren't touching, it was so bad. And this wasn't a condition that cropped up in a few weeks or even months...
        05-15-2009, 02:23 PM
    Not sure what someonme neglecting their horses has to do with the subject? There have been neglect cases as long as there has been horses. Markets high, markets low they still have cases. To me neglect and abuse is someone being irresponsable. Breeding and taking care of whats bred is not regardless what the bloodlines aRE.
        05-15-2009, 02:32 PM
    County I respect what you are saying. What I am trying to point out is simply that if this poster has the means to raise a foal maybe going out and adopting a yearling would be a better idea. If the mare is really special and the stallion a good match and the health issues are okay by a vet and she has plenty of extra time and money and she plans to keep the baby forever if she has to because of a soft market, then yes they should go for it. However they asked for opinions and we are giving them. You seem to be giving the pros and some of us are more focused on the cons. Our opinions are shaped by our experiences. You have been very successful breeding and that's awesome. I know of several professional breeders who are currently in financial trouble and having trouble finding homes for their horses they bred.

    It is relevant in my eyes to think of all the horses without homes. Just like stopping to consider adopting a dog rather than buying from a pet store, etc.

    I do think pictures of the mare and stud might help.
        05-15-2009, 02:39 PM
    Your right I'm givinmg my opinion same as you are doesn't make either one right or wrong just different. You see no reasons to breed I see lots of them. I know breeders haveing a hard time selling right now also includingmyself. I have a brother that works for Ford, their having a hard time selling cars but they aren't quitting their business or jobs. Neither am I we also farm raising beef, corn, ots, and hay those products are not always high sellers either. Were in the business were in to make a living long term not one time or year.
        05-15-2009, 02:51 PM
    County, I totally see where you are coming from. I am glad you are surviving. I just think its really different to get into breeding right now when the economy is so bad and there are so many homeless horses. And some breeders are going out of business and so are some car dealers. As I said if Pinto can go through the list of questions on the fugly horse website and come out positive there is no reason not to breed. But it is certainly something to really think about carefully and I am glad Pinto is asking.
    As you point out you are here to make a living long term. I certainly wouldn't want anyone to stop trying to make living but bringing new horses into the world IF you don't have a real reason or plan is dangerous as its very easy to find yourself in a bad situation and have no way to pay for the horse. There are so many things that can happen.
        05-15-2009, 03:17 PM
    Like I said I don't know anyone that breeds without a reason. But if someone doesn't think they want to breed a mare by all means they shouldn't do so.

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