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    02-05-2011, 08:30 PM
  #11
Yearling
That's ridiculous, there is no scientific explanation on why it would/should work...
     
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    02-05-2011, 08:34 PM
  #12
Green Broke
SHmurmur - apparently the weight in the uterous creates aphantom pregnancy.

Anyway It DOES work. Infact it is completly mainstream here and done regularly to mardy mares or mares who's seasons are affecting thier competition results.

They are essentialy an IUD for horses.
     
    02-05-2011, 08:52 PM
  #13
Yearling
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Originally Posted by faye    
SHmurmur - apparently the weight in the uterous creates aphantom pregnancy.

Anyway It DOES work. Infact it is completly mainstream here and done regularly to mardy mares or mares who's seasons are affecting thier competition results.

They are essentialy an IUD for horses.
It doesn't work that way, there has to be a chemical reaction. There is nothing to prevent the killing of the CL and how does the marble stop the secretion of pgf2 alpha?
     
    02-05-2011, 09:05 PM
  #14
Green Broke
How does the inert IUD work in women? The phantom pregnancy was how it was explained to me by the Vets at Leahurst vet hospital (University of Liverpool)

Believe me it does work. Go argue the semantics of how with the top vets in europe who now activly promote the Marble over regumate because of the serious problems with women handling regumate. All I care is that it does work.


I've had 2 mares marbled and both have turned from absolute witches into lovely little mares who were very sweet, one went on to be a childs best friend and the other went on to workat the RDA! Both done at Leahurst Vet hospital.
Yes there may be some mares that it doesnt work on, just as regumate doesnt work on all mares but it does work on the vast majority of mares.
     
    02-05-2011, 09:17 PM
  #15
Yearling
An IUD releases hormones, a glass marble... Well is a glass marble.

I'm not arguing, just questioning logic.
     
    02-05-2011, 09:27 PM
  #16
Green Broke
No an inert IUD does not release hormones.

There are 2 types of IUD in women the inert one and the hormone one. I personaly have an inert one as I cannot tolerate the hormone one (makes me ill and puts my blood pressure through the roof).
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    02-05-2011, 09:35 PM
  #17
Yearling
So you stick a marble in 10 horses, 4-7 of the 10 horses it may work... If it works, it works for 90 days, then you have to deal with them for 30 and then reinsert it?

Application of oxytocin is so much easier, and it works in 10 out of 10 horses.. :)
     
    02-05-2011, 09:44 PM
  #18
Green Broke
Not that easy- In the UK and Europe vet medcines are far more regulated then in the USA, weare not allowed togive our own vaccines and the vast majority of medcines MUSt be obtained from or adminstered by a liscenced, registered vet.

Oxytocin is one of those that can only be administered by a vet thus you have lovely vet call out fees to add.

Regumate is the only hormonal drug for mares that can be administered by a non vet, it must however be obtained from a vet who has examined the mare. I refuse to have Regumate anywhere near my yard as the vast majority of women here are of child bareing age or younger!

My mares had the marble implanted and it was removed and replaced every 2 to 3 years.
     
    02-05-2011, 11:29 PM
  #19
Foal
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Originally Posted by shmurmer4    
An IUD releases hormones, a glass marble... Well is a glass marble.
Haha yea true. This marble thing is so weird..... Who ever thought oh hey I wonder if I put a marble inside a horse if it would stop her from being such a mare!? Haha what people think of these days...... Well I guess its good that it works
     

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