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    10-26-2008, 12:53 PM
  #21
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Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
Do NOT breed a mare just to make her settle down! It is NOT a good reason to breed.
A wonderful point.

From my breeding experience with Gypsy Vanners, it really depends on the horse. I believe it is just the hormone kick-in in some mares. JDI listed many lovely brands that can help settle a mare down and such - breeding is certainly not an option for that - breeding is breeding.

I hope this makes sense...and if not...just ignore me. :)
     
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    10-26-2008, 03:38 PM
  #22
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JDI- Have no fear, I have absolutely no intention of letting my mare get bred. I do not want to pass on her genes, ever. If I ever decide I "need" a baby horse I'm going to go adopt me one, not breed me one.

I was just asking because my trainer believes it and I was adding to my horse education.
     
    10-26-2008, 10:39 PM
  #23
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Originally Posted by Wallaby    
JDI- Have no fear, I have absolutely no intention of letting my mare get bred. I do not want to pass on her genes, ever. If I ever decide I "need" a baby horse I'm going to go adopt me one, not breed me one.
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Originally Posted by Wallaby    

I was just asking because my trainer believes it and I was adding to my horse education.
Wonderful, good for you - I am very impressed Some people wouldn't think the way you do though and just blindly follow their trainer's advice.. so good for you for standing up for what you believe Bravo!

Ahh I can't figure out how to fix the quotes... oh well just wanted to add that some people would want to breed their mare just to make it "settle down" so I wanted to clarify that point... hehe
     
    10-27-2008, 12:02 PM
  #24
Green Broke
Thank you so much for not breeding your mare! What a ridiculous reason to bring a baby into this world... I know a few particularly moody mares that were very very mellow and well behaved during their pregnancy. However, as soon as the baby was born they were back to their feisty selves! I hear this is fairly common and I wonder if that's what your trainer was thinking of. JDI listed some supplements that may help (i hear some of them have no effect but I have no personal experience using them). There were a few show mares at our barn who were on Regumate (a synthetic progesterone added to their feed), which is supposed to be the most effective as it represses their heat cycle. It's usually used by upper level competition mares and even the traveling Lipizanner stallion show (apparently it makes stallions less studdish) so their performance isn't affected by hormones. But it is very expensive, by prescription only, and you have to be careful when handling it (it will mess with your cycle as well!) We once had a pony mare at our barn who had been spayed! I'd hate to see how she used to be before that procedure, she had quite an attitude as is...
     
    10-27-2008, 01:46 PM
  #25
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Originally Posted by upnover    
There were a few show mares at our barn who were on Regumate (a synthetic progesterone added to their feed), which is supposed to be the most effective as it represses their heat cycle. It's usually used by upper level competition mares and even the traveling Lipizanner stallion show (apparently it makes stallions less studdish) so their performance isn't affected by hormones. But it is very expensive, by prescription only, and you have to be careful when handling it (it will mess with your cycle as well!) We once had a pony mare at our barn who had been spayed! I'd hate to see how she used to be before that procedure, she had quite an attitude as is...

I heard (possibly another old wives tale) that there are some countries that its normal to spay the mare and keep the stallion intact. Got to be a male dominated society LOL.
Anyone else hear this, if so whats the scoop?
     
    10-27-2008, 02:01 PM
  #26
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Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
In my experience and opinion, some mares do "settle down" after having a foal... now, whether that's age-related (as in, the mare's now a year older than when she was bred) or a hormonal thing... anyways, it doesn't hold true for every mare, and in my opinion, it is a mindless reason to breed a mare.
People are always trying to correlate things - such as with cell phones and brain tumors... it's been proven untrue... doesn't mean people don't still believe it.

If you're going to breed, do it for the right reasons... as in, the mare's done something in her life, or has accomplished something, or has exceptional conformation that you want to pass on to a foal, etc etc etc (like you can see in my other threads on the topic) .. but making a mare pregnant just to make her settle down? No, that is not an acceptable reason in my mind.

If you want to get a mare to settle down there are some amazing supplements out there that do that. To name a few:
- Compose
- "Chill" by Omega Alpha
- "Feisty Mare" by Herbs for Horses
- "Moody Mare" by Wendels
... even a hormonal replacement from your vet! There are a million other ways to get a mare to settle down than getting her to have a foal... having a foal is expensive and risky.

Talk to your vet... I will almost bet on it he'll say the same thing.

I just want to caveat this by adding, if you show, you need to check the ingredients of these, some things will test positive for illegal drugs on some show circuits. Also, not every supplement will work for every mare, so it might take a little experimenting to find the one that is right for your mare. Also, the stuff that your vet can provide is very costly and you have to be VERY careful with it as it causes birth defects in human babies. (you can NOT touch it...at all).

Another thought is, which I never tried, my vet said you can A - have your mare spayed or B - have a stainless steel marble inserted into your mares uterus. I personally have been using Magic Mare, it's an all natural supplement and it's only about $18 a month. And it does work for my mare....
     
    10-27-2008, 10:45 PM
  #27
Yearling
Its worked wuth my moms breeding dogs
     
    10-29-2008, 05:01 PM
  #28
Showing
I have seen both ends of the spectrum. It's a hormonal thing and unfortunately every horse goes thru different adjustments, differently. Does your trainer have an motive to breed your mare?? I find forcing an unneeded foal to hit the ground in the hopes it will settle a horse down, is wrong on many levels.
     
    11-13-2008, 06:24 PM
  #29
Foal
I was just recently wondering the same thing about mood changes. I purchased my mare last fall. I did not know she was bred. She had one foal before that. So I have had her for over a year now. I have noticed that she is so much more mellow. When we first got her she was so flighty, high headed, ect. I am not sure if I can really associate the mood changes to foaling or just to her getting used to us and our expectations of her?!? Not really sure. Interesting topic.
     
    11-14-2008, 02:04 AM
  #30
Showing
I thought about it again tonight. It really depends on the horse. I had a mare which was bred and she's been a witch since. She used to the sweetest pony and now you can't even get near her anymore. She is a very sour and angry mare. No longer likes people.
     

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