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    07-11-2010, 03:50 AM
  #11
Weanling
Not sure for the whole AQHA/APHA dual registry.

I do know that you can register an Arabian that is pinto dually. I ride an Arabian x Saddlebred [aka National Show Horse] and she is registered with AHA and APHA therefore I can show her at Arabian breed shows and Pinto breed shows.
     
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    07-11-2010, 01:47 PM
  #12
Started
I think what is confusing everyone is the use of APHA for pintos. APHA is American Paint Horse Association. The pinto registry is PHAA: Pinto Horse Association of America.
     
    07-11-2010, 01:52 PM
  #13
Foal
There are some pretty wild AQHA crop outs out there that are technically able to be tri-registered; AQHA/APHA/PtHA (the latter being pinto which is a color registry). The breed shows can be political but the idea is to stay out of the politics and be prepared to spend the necessary money to advertise your horse. It's only as bad as you make it out to be. That's how it rolls even in show dogs. Take it from someone who's been in the world of upper end APHA show horses for 16 years.

EDIT: Also if your horse is registered AQHA he can show AQHA if he's registered AQHA/APHA he can show at both breed shows and on both circuits. If you then get him registered PtHA you can show there too! And of course at all open/local shows :)
     
    07-11-2010, 01:53 PM
  #14
Started
Actually I have to reword the Pinto registry. It is PtHA for Pinto Horse Association of America.

Wording of Paint horse regulations:
Horses accepted for registration in the APHA result from these combinations only: Paint x Paint, Paint x QH, Paint x TB, QH x QH, TB x TB, or QH x TB. Purebred Quarter Horses or Thoroughbreds are welcomed into the APHA registry as long as the horses have enough white to meet minimum color requirements.

Wording of Pinto horse association:while the PtHA allows registration of spotted horses and ponies of many breeds
     
    07-11-2010, 07:28 PM
  #15
Weanling
>>>> Purebred Quarter Horses or Thoroughbreds are welcomed into the APHA registry as long as the horses have enough white to meet minimum color requirements.

Not anymore. The APHA passed a "one Paint parent" rules which means unless that registered TB or registered QH already had a double-registered (with APHA) parent, they cannot be APHA registered.
     
    07-11-2010, 09:59 PM
  #16
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastowest    
>>>> Purebred Quarter Horses or Thoroughbreds are welcomed into the APHA registry as long as the horses have enough white to meet minimum color requirements.

Not anymore. The APHA passed a "one Paint parent" rules which means unless that registered TB or registered QH already had a double-registered (with APHA) parent, they cannot be APHA registered.
When was that? That rule is pretty much a moot point because the APHA was FOUNDED on registering QH and TB stock that were "crop outs". It doesn't make sense for them to approve stallions of QH and TB descent only to say no to fully registering them if they meet requirements. I'd love to see the paperwork on that one.
     
    07-11-2010, 10:07 PM
  #17
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinRoses    
When was that? That rule is pretty much a moot point because the APHA was FOUNDED on registering QH and TB stock that were "crop outs". It doesn't make sense for them to approve stallions of QH and TB descent only to say no to fully registering them if they meet requirements. I'd love to see the paperwork on that one.
The rule is not really that new, it went into effect 1/1/2005.

APHA.Com - Pressroom
     
    07-12-2010, 02:00 AM
  #18
Foal
That makes next to no sense... There's still a ton of AQHA/APHA dual registered horses. Just was eyeballing an ad for one 15 minutes ago.

http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-222189

Both of her parents are clearly JC. I don't know if the sire/dam are approved APHA. But she doesn't have an ounce of honest to goodness paint blood as in STOCK blood in her.
     
    07-12-2010, 03:11 AM
  #19
Yearling
Simple, they were registered before the rule change. They aren't pulling papers on already registered horses, so a 100% QH crop out that was double registered before the rule change is still APHA and it's offspring can still be APHA registered.
     
    07-12-2010, 06:47 AM
  #20
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by haviris    
Simple, they were registered before the rule change. They aren't pulling papers on already registered horses, so a 100% QH crop out that was double registered before the rule change is still APHA and it's offspring can still be APHA registered.
Exactly. Once the horse is registered APHA, it is by definition a Paint forever, and it's offspring can also be registered with the APHA (assuming the other parent is APHA, AQHA or JC).
     

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