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post #1 of 13 Old 09-02-2009, 06:23 PM Thread Starter
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Dumb question for Appy breeders.......

I want to breed my ApHC mare to a AQHA stallion. I know this is exceptable cross for ApHC, my question is this, he is full QH with no paint breeding but becase of his color (cremelo) he is also registered APHA. Will that be a problem for registering the foal as an Appaloosa???
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post #2 of 13 Old 09-02-2009, 06:42 PM
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No. As long as he is registered as a QH there will be no problem, even if he is APHA registered too. My paint is APHA but if he was registered to QH too, I could register my colt.
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From what I understand you can't register them if they have APHA papers. Back in the day, like WAY back{don't know if it still applies} If your paint and appy bred the studs papers would get taken away if it was reported. I probably got that all confused though.

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Come to MI I know and AWESOME stud. He is a snow cap few spot appy. He is 100% leopard producer. His name is 7. I can't think of his Reg. name right now. His dad was Mi Tahi Reo. I have his Half sister. Another one of his sisters was a halter champion. He is Foundation reg. Sundance 500. Colorado Ranger Bred. ApHC and the foundation through the ApHC. He is Amazing.

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My friend is a Foundation Appy breeder and that's what she told me. If my pait was registered with AQHA too, I could register the baby, but since his is only APHA registered, I can't.

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As long as the stallion has AQHA papers, and does not have the notation on his papers about having excessive white, he is an acceptable parent for an ApHC eligible foal.

If he is not already, the stallion needs to be "listed" with ApHC before his foals will be registerable, which means sending in a front-back copy of his papers, the listing form, the fee, and a waiver form for DNA if his DNA is already on file with AQHA (the waiver form allows ApHC to get his DNA type from AQHA.) If he is not already DNA typed, that needs to be done.

Then before November 30 of the breeding year, the stallion owner needs to file a stallion breeding report with ApHC listing any ApHC mares he bred, breeding dates, etc. It can be filed late, but it costs more.

Your ApHC mare also has to have DNA on file before her ApHC foal is registerable.

Regarding "back in the day" getting papers yanked if Appaloosas bred paints-- I think it is an old wive's tale. I have copies of the Appaloosa News from the 1960's on, and ApHC rule books from the 70's on, and have tried to make a point of studying the various rules, changes, the whens and why's etc-- and have never come across any such rule. There were articles and pamphlets discouraging that type of cross, because the foal would not be registerable-- but not any rules or penalties against it I can find.

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Come to MI I know and AWESOME stud. He is a snow cap few spot appy. He is 100% leopard producer. His name is 7. I can't think of his Reg. name right now. His dad was Mi Tahi Reo. I have his Half sister. Another one of his sisters was a halter champion. He is Foundation reg. Sundance 500. Colorado Ranger Bred. ApHC and the foundation through the ApHC. He is Amazing.

I would be interested more in the stud your refering to. My options are not closed yet as to what I am doing. So if you dont mind posting infor/pics on him on here that be great. Otherwise you can send it in a PM.
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Thank you everyone for the help, I have bred appies for a couple years but NEVER bred to an outside QH that also had APHA papers. Plus to I always used my own studs.

I curently have a 2009 foal out of my QH mare by this same stallion I I really like what he throws.
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My friend's also own a stud. His name is Starman. He is homozygous (always produces color) and tends to have leopard foals. here are some pictures of him:
....if the website would ever load....
Anyway, his registered name is BC kfs Easter Star
and you can look his pedigree up on www.allpedigree.com just type in his name =]

Yay! they uploaded! here are the pics:




And this goes to show how much color he produces:

That was a purebred sorrel Arabian mare.

These are a couple more of his foals:


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The people I am buying me new Appy off of also own a gorgeous stud. His name is Starman. He is homozygous (always produces color) and tends to have leopard foals. here are some pictures of him:
....if the website would ever load....
Anyway, his registered name is BC kfs Easter Star
and you can look his pedigree up on www.allpedigree.com just type in his name =]

Yay! they uploaded! here are the pics:




And this goes to show how much color he produces:

That was a purebred sorrel Arabian mare.

These are a couple more of his foals:



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