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post #1 of 8 Old 06-16-2013, 03:20 PM Thread Starter
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Edema around udders.... possibly pregnant?

Hope some experienced breeders may be able to help! When I bought my mare last October, I was told she had been kept with a stud in pasture from March-August and was approximately 6 months pregnant (due to foal this past March). But my vet did a rectal palpation when we brought her home and concluded not 6 months pregnant. I watched her teats carefully in March (just in case) and no signs of changes into April. In the last week or so, she has developed edema first in front of udder and now into udder. I showed these before/after pics in case there was something wrong with my mare and now my vet is thinking possibly sign of pregnancy? She is 4yo and it would be her first foal.

First picture taken last week of March.



A couple of days ago:



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post #2 of 8 Old 06-16-2013, 04:11 PM
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ummm...possibly.

but, its impossible to tell until the foal starts coming out unless a vet verifies she is indeed foal. the first check you had, its possible the foal was too far down in the uterus to feel or some other reason why the vet couldnt feel a foal.

so you have any recent body shots of her? mares start to bag up 4-6 weeks out from foaling. typically by the, there are plenty of changes physically to a mare to be able to tell. then again, she could just be well fed and horomones are taking over right now.
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Did you tell the vet she was in with the stud from March to August? You do realize they may have bred at any time during that time period, including in August, which would have made her only about 8 weeks preggo when the vet palpated......

Bottom line-you ned the vet again. No way around it.
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She is a growing 4yo percheron/qh cross, so she is a big girl. But she does not appear overly fat or pregnant to me. My vet is aware that the mare was in pasture all summer with stud and said that it was possible she did not feel anything last fall because not far enough along. She did not seem concerned about the swelling based on the pictures in light of her acting normal with her usual healthy appetite. She has been a challenging project to earn her trust and I am just reaching the stage of seeing a major change. I worry that a visit from my vet in the immediate timeframe would wipe out the progress we are making. Here is a picture from today:

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She's gorgeous.

its definitely a possibility that she could be pregnant. Your looking at 50-50 chance. With her being a maiden, and a big bodied mare, you might not know she's bred until you wake up to a foal.

I personally would take the chance with my mare to have her checked by a vet. That way I know for sure what is going on.
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Hmm my Percheron mares udder looks very much the same as yours and they express some liquid, however as far as my vet and I know she was not bred. My mare is also pudgier looking than yours. Its very possible its just hormones, but I would definitely have a vet out. Not sure if draft mares are prone to complications like minis or not?
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Being the owner of a mare who caught literally weeks before I got her, I would also put in my bet to say the possibility of her being bred later in her rendezvous with the stud something worth taking into thought. I thought my mare was going to foal the whole summer, until pieces started coming together and she didn't foal until next year!

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Hmm my Percheron mares udder looks very much the same as yours and they express some liquid, however as far as my vet and I know she was not bred. My mare is also pudgier looking than yours. Its very possible its just hormones, but I would definitely have a vet out. Not sure if draft mares are prone to complications like minis or not?
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Typically, no, drafts aren't particularly prone to complications. But with horses of larger size, I've noticed foals having difficulty getting to their feet and needing assistance with their particularly lax tendons. (I've only really been around Cyldes as for draft foals, very tall ones at that.) Plus they don't take to the heat well, so most of them are aimed towards earlier in the year. The place I helped out at does show, so that did play a part in the time of year for foaling.

Other than that, gorgeous mare. I'd get the vet out and get another palpation or US if you can, make sure she IS indeed in foal. Those mares are tricky ones, and maidens certainly can hide it. With her being a maiden I'd want to be a bit more informed on the state of her pregnancy. At least with my mare mare she'd delivered on her own out in a pasture plenty of times. I tried to keep an eye on her for trouble, but she had no problem giving me my foal this February, in the middle of a blizzard. (She was indoors, no worries.)
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Thanks for the compliments and advice! I go out 3-4 times per day to spend time with her and am keeping a close eye for any changes. She learned that I can scratch all the good spots yesterday, so I was able to clean the area between her teats (which she loved) and otherwise feel around and get a close look. Plus she discovered the joy of having her butt scratched, which makes the tail automatically lift. So I can now monitor changes back there much easier. At the rate we are going with gentling process, she may be ok with rectal palpation in a couple of weeks, but for now we will have to live with the suspense. By the way, her name is Patience.... and boy oh boy does she live up to her name!

In the meantime, my vet only lives 10 minutes away from me and is on standby to help, if needed.
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