Ever breed a black stud to a bay roan?

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    05-21-2012, 08:59 PM
Question Ever breed a black stud to a bay roan?

Just wondering if anyone has ever bred a Bay roan with with a black stud?

I am just wondering what colors come out of that comb???

- Thanks

Note: pic 1 is of her summer coat and pic 2 is of her winter coat :)
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    05-21-2012, 09:07 PM
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    05-21-2012, 09:15 PM
Green Broke
Not knowing the status of black in stallion and mare, as well as not knowing what the agouti and roan status is of the mare, here are your possibilities if the stallion is Ee aa and your mare is Ea Aa Rr
Offspring Color Probability

35.16% -Bay Roan
35.16% -Bay
11.72% -Blue Roan
11.72% -Black
3.13% -Chestnut Roan
3.13% -Chestnut
    05-21-2012, 09:26 PM
She has an intersting coat pattern, is she Appy ? Or a cross? Or is she quarter? Because in the quarter lineage there was a stud horse called Old App.
My black mare with a blaze 3 white socks threw a black filly with blaze and four white socks and sire was a blue roan appy x draft.
    05-21-2012, 09:30 PM
SunnyDraco covered the colour possibilities. However, I would add here an of interest note. Your mare is a brown roan, not a bay roan
    05-21-2012, 09:38 PM
I would also like to say that my mare is a registered QH & so is the stud.

And her previous owner said that she had 3 roans and 1 chesnut...though I have no idea what the stud looked like :)
    05-21-2012, 09:45 PM
Without knowing what colour the roans were (roan isn't a colour in itself, it's a white pattern) there is no way to accurately juudge what genes she does and doesn't have. Having produced a chestnut means she is not homozygous for black, which still fits with SunnyDraco's colour combinations.
    05-21-2012, 11:40 PM
Off topic, but what is the difference between a bay roan anda brown roan? I've always know them to be the same.
    05-21-2012, 11:41 PM
Green Broke
The difference is the base color under the roan ;)
    05-21-2012, 11:43 PM
Bay roan is a bay horse with the roan gene. Brown roan is a brown horse with the roan gene. Essentially the difference is the same with roan on top - see how the OP's horse has the paler muzzle and flank that a brown has? Another interesting thing is that a dark brown (one that is almost entirely black aside from its soft parts) looks more like a black roan than a bay roan. Note how the OP's horse looks "blue" rather than "red"?

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