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    09-28-2013, 01:57 PM
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False pregnancy?

So I posted a while ago about our mare that we were wondering if she was pregnant or not. The general consensus was to have a vet out, which we have done twice now and we still don't know if she is pregnant or not.

A little history:

The mare was a rescue from a man that had too many horses. She was in ok condition when we got her with a weanling at her side. The baby was old enough to be separated from mama and so our mare (12hh paint pony) went to our 4h advisor's house for 2 weeks to be sure she was a good pony for us. That was mid to late October. To our knowledge, she was exposed to a stud in the pasture with many other horses. She was pretty much a broodmare. She is around 14 yrs old.

The vet came to our house in early August for our other horse and checked out the pony. She felt she was too small to palpate, but listened to her belly and checked her bag. She heard a lot of fluid in her belly and assumed it could be amniotic and said her bag seemed to be filling up. She felt she was probably pregnant.

So, 6 weeks go by and we paid to have the vet out again yesterday, to really confirm or deny the pregnancy. I was so excited to just know, because gesh, if she is pregnant, shouldn't we have a baby by now? Anyways, the vet we had this time is very sweet, but very much just out of school. She felt her mammary development looked as if she were pregnant. She got the u/s out and saw a ton of fluid, but failed to see a definite baby. The vet was a rookie and spent 3/4 not getting good contact and a clear picture. The vet did take blood work to be sent away, so we should know definitively in a few days, but what do I make of that. She thought the mammeries and the fluid suggested baby, but she could make one for sure out on the u/s (which by the way was not a rectal u/s, just on the belly). Could this be a false pregnancy? What are the signs of that?

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    09-28-2013, 02:16 PM
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I would get a new vet with experience. So if I understand correctly you've had her for about a year? Can you get pictures of her? False pregnancies act just like a real pregnancy from what I hear.
     
    09-28-2013, 02:24 PM
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Foal
I will post a couple pics I have on my phone from over a month ago....

Yes, we have had her since early November. But our advisor had her 2 weeks before that. So she would be 11 months pregnant.

Yeah the vet commented that she was pretty sure the fluid was not her bladder because there was so much of it. Now I don't know a lot about horse anatomy, but wouldn't a vet know the difference between the bladder and amniotic fluid in the uterus?
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    09-28-2013, 02:28 PM
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I will post a couple pics I have on my phone from over a month ago....

Yes, we have had her since early November. But our advisor had her 2 weeks before that. So she would be 11 months pregnant.

Yeah the vet commented that she was pretty sure the fluid was not her bladder because there was so much of it. Now I don't know a lot about horse anatomy, but wouldn't a vet know the difference between the bladder and amniotic fluid in the uterus?
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If she were 11 months pregnant you would not need to do an ultra sound they could feel the baby with there hands. You experience sounds very strange.
     
    09-28-2013, 02:30 PM
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False pregnancies can be very tricky, mares can have every sign of pregnancy and even going into labor but not produce a foal. One thing a foal will cause physically that you won't find in false pregnancies is movement where there are no guts/intestines. Like finding distinctive movement under the belly, infront of the udder or right at the tail head as those they were knocking on the exit out. Not all foals are found moving like this though and you could spend days on end ripping your hair put with no real answers
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    09-28-2013, 04:14 PM
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Yes, it is a very strange situation. We are new to horse pregnancy issues and certainly did not set out to have a pregnant mare (if she is). We are however now excited about the possibility and willing to do what is necessary on her behalf.

I swear I have seen consistent movement for months, but now I think I am going crazy.

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    09-28-2013, 05:24 PM
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Trained
After a certain stage (Usually 3-4 months) the foal will slip lower into the uterus where u/s is not a viable way to check for pregnancy. 90% of the time, you will not get a picture because of where the foal is positioned, therefore no definite answer.

With smaller ponies, bloodwork is the way to go.
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    09-28-2013, 09:58 PM
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Trying to add pics.....

These are from a month ago
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    09-28-2013, 09:59 PM
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    10-01-2013, 01:47 PM
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Just took these pictures today......

Ok guys, so blood has been drawn and we will know for sure by the end of the week. I took some pictures just now because I thought recent pictures might help. Really, what do you guys think? She seems quite big to not be pregnant. That accompanied with her bagging up some and the vet finding so much fluid via u/s makes me think that surely she is pregnant. However, not actually seeing a baby on the u/s, even with a rookie vet and the fact that she should be due any time and doesn't seem to act like it, well I am just scratching my head. The whole family is. You guys that know a thing or two about pregnant mares, please chime in on your opinion!
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