The Horse Forum banner
Status
Not open for further replies.

Finding a good stally...

9K views 78 replies 22 participants last post by  mom2pride 
#1 ·
I want to breed my Shetland/Mini pony. I kind of want a taller one but would it hurt her? Otherwise I'll breed her to a mini with some color and sell the foal. What breed would be a little taller but won't harm her?
 
#3 ·
i bred my mare with a stailiom 2 hands bigger then her and she had no problem with him and recieved no problems. is your shetland mini registered if you breed it with another mini that is registered it will proebebly be worth more. for teh stailion it depends on his build and size. you don't want a heavy pony on her if she small or anything that is well endowed as it can do damge my firend staillion was big and he damged her mare internally. could always do AI if you worried about her being covered naturally. maybe do some resaerch on breeds that would be suitable search studs and see some stailions. remember breeding is not cheap you have to play for stud or ai. not all breeders will give your fee back if she does concieve a foal. also have to ask why breed if it is for yourself or to sell depending on bloodlines of the parents the foal will not sell for much.
 
#4 ·
Look for studs that are good at what you want the foal to be good at. If he has won driving, or in halter, baby has a better chance of being good too. Look at the conformation faults your mare has and find a stud that is strong in the areas shes weak in. Make sure he has a good temperament too.
 
#8 ·
I don't even know why people post stuff like this anymore. Everyone who wants help "finding a stally thats a purdy color zomg!!" gets a goooood reality check.

Several times over.
 
#12 ·
Wow. Touchy topic, no?

First off -

If this girl wants to breed her mare then she can do it without all the criticism. As for vet bills - Whatever happened to foaling yourself? I once paid a vet to come out when I didn't have my mom or my trainer around to help, and I paid a large sum of money just for the vet to stand there and say "Dat's a nice lookin' colt ya got righ' thar."

And as for the selling, yeah it would suck to sell a baby right now, but I would still do it because I can afford to and I just really want a colt right now. You pay to get entrance to things you like ti do: Bowling, the fair, restaurants.....You lose money but you do it because it makes you happy.


Yes, this is a forum for open discussion. But there is a very, very fine line between brutal honesty and being too harsh.
 
#72 ·
Wow. Touchy topic, no?

First off -

If this girl wants to breed her mare then she can do it without all the criticism. As for vet bills - Whatever happened to foaling yourself? I once paid a vet to come out when I didn't have my mom or my trainer around to help, and I paid a large sum of money just for the vet to stand there and say "Dat's a nice lookin' colt ya got righ' thar."
Most people do not have the vet out when foaling but there are lots of other vet bills and expenses when raising an animal so it is not really cost effective unless you do it to keep it.
 
#14 ·
^That. It's all those "oh, just one baby from my mediocre but purty friesian/appaloosa mare and joe blow's kolored paint stally down the road" babies that put a downer on the horse market. Seriously. Been to an auction lately? Have you seen what even well bred babies bring? Less than $200, usually. And the crappy ones go for meat prices, if that. Last year my grandmother bought a very cute two year old QH filly for $60. No papers, but very obviously a QH and very well built with a pretty head.

Please think through your reasons for breeding.
 
#15 · (Edited)
My reasons for breeding are because I help run an EQUINE facility. We raise PERFORMANCE horses. My colts are all trained to high dollar and they either stay with us or are sold to other competitors.

And, just to clarify, I'm merely saying that if something makes you happy you should do it. We've lost money on foals tons of times but I makes me happy to take care of a life and see that little face every morning so we do it anyway. I love putting the saddle on for the first time and taking the first ride on a colt I raised myself, or watching them grow. I still see tons of my baby foals (Well, not so baby anymore) on the show circuit and doing well. I love watching the grow into serious competitors.

And just for the record, there ARE people who have a passion for bowling just like we love the horses. I certainly don't, but someone in my extended family bowls competitively and we have wars. I babble about horses and he flaps his jaw about bowling all the time. To some people it is worth it, just apparantly not to you or me.

And you're right. This is a forum. People should be allowed to post questions witohut being attacked for it.

I respect you all and will always try your advice, btu I am going to speak up if I think you are all being too harsh.
 
#61 ·
And just for the record, there ARE people who have a passion for bowling just like we love the horses. I certainly don't, but someone in my extended family bowls competitively and we have wars. I babble about horses and he flaps his jaw about bowling all the time. To some people it is worth it, just apparantly not to you or me.
Do you know the difference between a bowling ball and a horse? Here are a couple that I thought of off of the top of my head

1) Bowling balls don't require ongoing care, such as vet and farrier services, which cost money.
2) Bowling balls don't eat.
3) Bowling balls don't have feelings.
4) Bowling balls don't care if you don't get to spend time with them
5) Bowling balls don't lose value because you don't have time to spend with them.
6) Bowling balls don't end up on a double decker truck bound for Mexico when their owners decide they don't want them anymore and want a new hobby.

Can anyone else think of any?
 
#18 ·
When did she say she didn't have a purpose? Did you care to ask the OP?


Look, I'm completely against backyard breeding, and irresponsible breeding for that matter. But, nearly every single post on the breeding forums regarding someone breeding their mare turns into a harsh lecture thread because some people can't keep their opinions to themselves. If her mare is ideal in her mind, and she can find a stallion that can compliment her mare nicely (even if choosing a stallion does involve color), then who are we to argue? Maybe she wants to keep the foal for herself. Maybe she wants to train that foal and love it just as much as her mare?

People coming on here and griping about how bad the economy is at the moment is not going to stop people from breeding their horses. It is just going to start a dumb argument like this one.
 
#19 ·
Well done, Tennessee. Sometimes people need to step back and realize stereotypes aren't really stereotypical anymore.

And once again, there is a differance between breeding tons and tons of worthless foals and breeding one foal for the experience. It's not like she's a blackmarket hoarder who's breeding all these babies in bad conditions. She wants a nice little colt out of her pony mare. And I don't think either of you know if she's registered or not. Who's to say this colt might not be worth something? If the mare is registered and she breeds to a registered stud horse, then we got a registered foal who can easily be trained for something they are good at. I don't think throwing irritable responses at a very simple question is helping your horsemanship skills or your reputation, and it's certainly not helping the poster.
 
#62 ·
And once again, there is a differance between breeding tons and tons of worthless foals and breeding one foal for the experience.
Really? What difference does it make to the horse while he's having his throat slit in Mexico?

How much of a difference would it make to a horse if she went to an auction and bought one instead of letting it go to slaughter?
 
#20 ·
ROFL.

I love how the children who have parents paying for their crap are suddenly experts on the economy and on breeding horses when in reality, all I actually did was ask what the point in breeding her mare was and give her food for thought.

Maybe you should calm down and save some of that energy for your slaughter babies?
 
#21 ·
ROFL.

I love how the children who have parents paying for their crap are suddenly experts on the economy and on breeding horses when in reality, all I actually did was ask what the point in breeding her mare was and give her food for thought.

Maybe you should calm down and save some of that energy for your slaughter babies?
I'm no expert, but I'm aware. I watch the news just like every middle aged American in these great states. :)


And I like how a grown woman is sitting here trying to put down a sixteen year old. That's very mature of you, isn't it?
 
#27 ·
Eh... Tact is for people who can't use sarcasm to their defense... against utter BS.

I find Macabre a nice and enjoyable person, to be honest. If the person didn't want to be up for discussion/hated on - then she should not have posted here. Simple as that.
 
#28 ·
If the person didn't want to be up for discussion/hated on - then she should not have posted here. Simple as that.


No. She probably shouldn't have.


God help somebody just want one dang foal to raise out of their mare and post about it on here. People on their high horses will just come and step all over the OP.
 
#30 ·
As opposed to your happy sunshine world of rainbows and lollipops where people only ever agree with you and nobody is allowed to have their own opinion?

I will NEVER understand the complete stupidity it takes to not understand that posting on a PUBLIC FORUM leaves you wide open to any and all comments.

Here's a novel idea - don't post if you can't handle the commentary.

OMFG I NEED TO WIN AN EMMY FOR BEING A GENIUS!

:D
 
#33 ·
Hey, have an opinion about whatever you want. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that you can't have one because that would be dumb. But, the OP asked what breed of pony would be suitable for her mare. She did not ask people to give her reasons why she should not breed her mare because the economy is in the ****s.

Who said I can't handle it? 0.o

And thanks for calling me stupid. :) I think my IQ proves otherwise, ma'am.
 
#32 ·
PaintsPwn, I have complete respect for her as well and I do get on with her fine normally, but frankly this topic is rubbing me the wrong way.

And Macarbe, seriously? You think I don't know about the economy? I'm certainly no expert, but I know about breeding horses and I know all about the expenses. The horses I have are in my name. I may be a teenager, but if the hors ehas my name on its papers I pay for everything. Tack, feed, stud fees, vet bills, farrier bills, and everything they need. I go to work every day and work my butt off to create the cash I need to pay for my horses. Yes, I take care of my Mom's horses and my Trainer's horses too but the ones I own I take care of. If I want a foal, Mom could care less. She gives me her advice, tells me what stud she likes best, and sends me on my way. The first foal I bred I was in seventh grade and I worked all summer to pay the $1000 dollar stud fee for my mare, and then the feeding expenses took every penny fro me but I did it because I wanted the baby. Then I paid the $700 for 30 days under saddle. Then I bought it tack, paid for another 80 days after that, brought it home and worked on perfecting the turnarounds my trainer had pretty much already covered. By the next year I paid to have the first sliders on and showed in a backyard reining show that I paid the entry fees for. I even paid for the gas to get down to the expo, because I couldn't drive then. Now I have a permit. granted I don't have a license but I take my truck that I pay to put gas in.

Honestly, I do respect your knowledge, but you shouldn't make false assumptions based on stereotypical teenagers.
 
#36 ·
I took the actual test. :D 140, thank you very much.


And I have common sense. It's pretty darn hard to live on a farm your whole life and not have common sense. Once again you are making assumptions about me. Please stop stereotyping me.
 
#35 ·
I think everyone has this mindset "It's just a pony! It'll be fine! They get fat off air alone!" There are already plenty of ponies. There are too many ponies to be frank, because they take up less space, meaning people can crowd more of them onto a small piece of property and breed the heck out of them to make $200 here and there, and less for 'pet quality'.
 
#40 ·
Sorry, not quite.

My mindset is this girl wants one foal out of her mare. And we aren't making the decision whether or not she should breed the mare. I could flap my jaw all day about how she shouldn't do it but I bet she won't regard me much.

Seriously. She isn't running a "Horsey-mill" and breeding millions of low-dollar ponies in bad conditions. I think we've already adressed that.
 
#43 ·
Considering the original post basically said she was breeding regardless and would just sell the foal if she couldn't get a bigger one, did you even bother to READ this topic before you sounded off with all sixteen years of your eternal wisdom?
Stop talking down to me. Just because you're OLD doesn't mean that you are the Queen of freaking Sheba.


Yes. I did read the post. ONE foal is not going to kill anyone. It's not going to hurt anyone. It's just a foal.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
You have insufficient privileges to reply here.
Top