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        06-27-2010, 02:57 AM
    Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
    And just for the record, there ARE people who have a passion for bowling just like we love the horses. I certainly don't, but someone in my extended family bowls competitively and we have wars. I babble about horses and he flaps his jaw about bowling all the time. To some people it is worth it, just apparantly not to you or me.
    Do you know the difference between a bowling ball and a horse? Here are a couple that I thought of off of the top of my head

    1) Bowling balls don't require ongoing care, such as vet and farrier services, which cost money.
    2) Bowling balls don't eat.
    3) Bowling balls don't have feelings.
    4) Bowling balls don't care if you don't get to spend time with them
    5) Bowling balls don't lose value because you don't have time to spend with them.
    6) Bowling balls don't end up on a double decker truck bound for Mexico when their owners decide they don't want them anymore and want a new hobby.

    Can anyone else think of any?
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        06-27-2010, 03:01 AM
    Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
    And once again, there is a differance between breeding tons and tons of worthless foals and breeding one foal for the experience.
    Really? What difference does it make to the horse while he's having his throat slit in Mexico?

    How much of a difference would it make to a horse if she went to an auction and bought one instead of letting it go to slaughter?
        06-27-2010, 03:02 AM
    Originally Posted by Tennessee    
    "I love how the children who have parents paying for their crap are suddenly experts on the economy and on breeding horses."

    Sounds like you know a lot about me, considering you've never met me.
    Considering you said that your dad is giving you a $4,500 budget to buy a new horse, I'd say she's not too far off the mark in her assumption.
        06-27-2010, 03:05 AM
    Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
    PaintsPwn, I have complete respect for her as well and I do get on with her fine normally, but frankly this topic is rubbing me the wrong way.

    And Macarbe, seriously? You think I don't know about the economy? I'm certainly no expert, but I know about breeding horses and I know all about the expenses. The horses I have are in my name. I may be a teenager, but if the hors ehas my name on its papers I pay for everything. Tack, feed, stud fees, vet bills, farrier bills, and everything they need. I go to work every day and work my butt off to create the cash I need to pay for my horses. Yes, I take care of my Mom's horses and my Trainer's horses too but the ones I own I take care of. If I want a foal, Mom could care less. She gives me her advice, tells me what stud she likes best, and sends me on my way. The first foal I bred I was in seventh grade and I worked all summer to pay the $1000 dollar stud fee for my mare, and then the feeding expenses took every penny fro me but I did it because I wanted the baby. Then I paid the $700 for 30 days under saddle. Then I bought it tack, paid for another 80 days after that, brought it home and worked on perfecting the turnarounds my trainer had pretty much already covered. By the next year I paid to have the first sliders on and showed in a backyard reining show that I paid the entry fees for. I even paid for the gas to get down to the expo, because I couldn't drive then. Now I have a permit. Granted I don't have a license but I take my truck that I pay to put gas in.

    Honestly, I do respect your knowledge, but you shouldn't make false assumptions based on stereotypical teenagers.
    Good for you for being so responsible. Now please go slap your mother and ask her what the hell she was thinking letting her 12-13 year old child breed a horse.
        06-27-2010, 03:09 AM
    Originally Posted by Tennessee    
    I agree. There are WAYYYY too many horses. But, if the OP is more than willing to keep the foal no matter what and care for it properly, then I really don't see a problem.
    Because she can just as easily buy a horse from an auction and save it from slaughter instead of breeding her horse.

    Here's a simple math problem that should explain it for you, since you claim to be so smart.

    Let's say I have a horse, and I have room for one more horse. There is already a surplus of 5 horses in my area due to irresponsible breeding. I have a few options:
    1) Breed my horse, which results in a surplus of 5 horses
    2) Buy a horse, which results in a surplus of 4 horses
    3) None of the above, which results in a surplus of 5 horses with an option to later reduce the surplus.

    Which one makes the most sense?
        06-27-2010, 03:12 AM
    Originally Posted by Tennessee    
    Yes. I did read the post. ONE foal is not going to kill anyone. It's not going to hurt anyone. It's just a foal.
    That kind of logic is exactly why we have horses going to slaughter every single day.

    ONE foal won't kill any person, but it will kill a horse.
        06-27-2010, 03:15 AM
    Originally Posted by Tennessee    
    I doubt it, ma'am. ;)

    And honestly? I don't know. The economy is already crappy, so one more foal ain't going to hurt it that bad.
    Brilliant! I'm going to go to my bank tomorrow and get a mortgage. "No, sorry, I don't have any verifiable income because I'm self-employed. How much do I make? Umm, around $20,000 a year... What do you mean I can't have a $300,000 mortgage? Why not? You were handing them out to anyone who asked for one 3 years ago. Come on, you've already sold thousands of bad mortgages, what harm could one more possibly do? Pretty please? I PROMISE I won't default and go into foreclosure!"
        06-27-2010, 03:17 AM
    Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
    You're right. But ya know what? If we all lived by that philosophy we eventually would no longer have horses. Because even top performance horses can be victims of slaughter. I've seen it happen. It's not pretty.

    And something else; Most of the BEST kids ponies around her were a one-shot out of a hobby rider and now they are assisting kids in their events.

    Not saying that is always going to happen, but considering nobody knows anything for sure you can't know that they will be sold for a steak.

    And besides, like mentioned earlier, she's prett ymuch said she's going to breed anyway so why bother telling her she shouldn't?
    All I got out of that was "Lalala, let's pretend there's no problem! I took my horse to the auction last week because he started bucking me off, but I'm sure he's in a GREAT home now where he gets lots of love and attention! He couldn't have possibly gone to slaughter. Nope, not my horse. He's SPECIAL! I'm sure everyone at the auction realized how special he was and bid accordingly."
        06-27-2010, 03:31 AM
    Lets get back on track here guys.

    Less mud slinging and more informing.
        06-27-2010, 07:12 AM
    Come on poeple this is a forum to give advice cut back on abusing one another please

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