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    05-02-2012, 04:16 PM
  #1
Weanling
Question Foundation bred QH... what do you think?

I am considering buying a 10 yr. Old QH gelding.. he is 99% "foundation" bred...

MY QUESTIONS:

- Is there anything special about foundation bloodlines?
- What do you think of his conformation?
- What do you think a horse like this would generally cost?(he is just a trail horse now that needs a refresher)

I know these are poor pictures but they are all I have..

Thanks
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    05-02-2012, 04:28 PM
  #2
Banned
"Foundation" doesn't mean anything to me other than look very carefully before you buy.

There are some really fantastic foundation Quaterhorses, but then there are those that breed junk just because they are foundation. Just be carefull of the latter group and you will be OK. Buy them for their conformation and abilities just as you would any other horse. Good luck...
     
    05-02-2012, 04:32 PM
  #3
Trained
He looks solid from these pictures, but I'd like to see other views, if I were buying him. I think these links should help you.
Foundation Quarter Horses at FoundationHorses.Com
Foundation Quarter Horse Pedigrees
My horse, "Ro Go Bar" (1982-2009, RIP) was a (1/~1,000) grandson(s) of "Go Man Go", who had foundation QH blood in him.
Go Man Go - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Ro Go Bar" looked very much like him, but he had a docile temperment.
Quarter Horse Directory - Go Man Go

You can see the TB in his legs and frame. That's what we like about QH's, which is the diversity.
IMO Foundation QH's get have become very bull-dog and cutting. But, if that's what you like, you'll be happy with it.
     
    05-02-2012, 04:43 PM
  #4
Banned
I am sure you are not going to breed with him so the bloodlines are not that important.

Will he do the job you want him to???

He looks good.

At 10 years old he is not close enough to "foundation" to talk about.
     
    05-02-2012, 09:01 PM
  #5
Yearling
At 10 years old he is not close enough to "foundation" to talk about.

I'm just curious as to what the above means in detail. Just wondering as I have no clue and am interested. Please post away so this dummy can understand and learn.
     
    05-03-2012, 05:45 AM
  #6
Banned
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Originally Posted by SpiritLifter    
At 10 years old he is not close enough to "foundation" to talk about.

I'm just curious as to what the above means in detail. Just wondering as I have no clue and am interested. Please post away so this dummy can understand and learn.
The foundation stock has been dead for to many years to be of importance.
     
    05-03-2012, 08:15 AM
  #7
Banned
Spirit,

"Foundation" really means "from bloodlines without a lot of Thoroughbred added in." However, many times people use the term "Foundation" to talk about type, meaning the horse looks like the old fashioned bulldog type of QH. I have a foundation type QH that looks like the one the OP pictured. Stocky, broad through the chest, bulldog, with the classic small head. He also happens to be foundation bred, going back to Poco Bueno and Poco Lena if you go back far enough.

The websites someone else posted have ways you can calculate the percentage of "Foundation" in an individual horse's pedigree. I've always thought that was kind of silly, particularly for a gelding.

My other QH looks more like the modern QH - taller, less pronounced muscling, more TB type head.

Some people prefer one type over another depending on what they want to do with them.

I like the little horse the OP pictured, reminds me of my little guy. Smart, sturdy, useful all around horse. Won't attempt to analyze confo from these photos.

I would not pay more for a riding horse just because he was labeled "Foundation." His price should be determined entirely by his age, training and the market.
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    05-03-2012, 08:32 AM
  #8
Weanling
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Originally Posted by maura    
Spirit,

"Foundation" really means "from bloodlines without a lot of Thoroughbred added in." However, many times people use the term "Foundation" to talk about type, meaning the horse looks like the old fashioned bulldog type of QH. I have a foundation type QH that looks like the one the OP pictured. Stocky, broad through the chest, bulldog, with the classic small head. He also happens to be foundation bred, going back to Poco Bueno and Poco Lena if you go back far enough.

The websites someone else posted have ways you can calculate the percentage of "Foundation" in an individual horse's pedigree. I've always thought that was kind of silly, particularly for a gelding.

My other QH looks more like the modern QH - taller, less pronounced muscling, more TB type head.

Some people prefer one type over another depending on what they want to do with them.

I like the little horse the OP pictured, reminds me of my little guy. Smart, sturdy, useful all around horse. Won't attempt to analyze confo from these photos.

I would not pay more for a riding horse just because he was labeled "Foundation." His price should be determined entirely by his age, training and the market.
very helpful.. thanks :)

Could you tell me about your foundation QH? Do you have any pictures of him?

Thanks again =)
     
    05-03-2012, 08:43 AM
  #9
Banned
Here he is -



Not the best photo for comparison, but he's 14.2 and takes a 48 or 50" girth - really broad/stocky. Smart, ridiculously easy keeper, sane, broke-broke-broke, anyone can ride, takes care of his rider. Supposedly been on cattle, but I never have.

Has a very similiar head and expression to the little guy you pictured.
     
    05-03-2012, 09:30 AM
  #10
Showing
Faceman & Maura both made great points and explanations.

Being a gelding, it's a bit of a moot point though. Depending on what is close in his pedigree, it may though be an indicator of where his strong suits lie.

For me, to call them foundation, I want to see those horses within the first few generations. Many people will call one foundation if any of those old horses are in there even if it's 6 or more generations back. One of the foundation registries goes back 11 generations, too far for my taste. Age isn't necessarily a good indicator of being foundation or not. I have a yearling on the ground that will have Poco Dell, Poco Bueno, Peppy San, Due Note (son of Sugar Bars) & Beaver Creek (son of King) within 4 generations.

Ours have always been fairly heavy cutting lines. With them, they are smart, quick, easy keepers, athletic as all get out, not for the average person to train (they can easily out smart the average rider) but once they are good and broke, they are fantastic for about anyone to ride and are extremely willing and seek to please their rider. My favorite thing about them though is that they make good jacks of all trades. My old mare (that my daughter has now taken over) was a formally trained reiner and did very well at it but she was my all-arounder and did everything from wp, hus, jumped (with cleats in her sliding plates), speed events and has always been the first pick to put a green rider on when we hit the trails.
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