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I would not be breeding to stallions you have found on a general horse classifieds website without having extensive information on the bloodlines and progeny at the very least.
Also keep in mind - because the stallion is deceased you will be very unlikely to get a LFG, so if the straw does not take, you will be very out of pocket after all the vet bills on top of the service fee. The semen is also now quite old, and even though frozen, the viability of the sperm will be dropping significantly the longer it remains frozen, making it difficult to get anything but an absolutely exceptional broodmare in foal. If you mare is a maiden, I wouldn't bother.

Also, what are you looking for in a foal? Do you want a classic, cart horse type friesian for show, or are would you like more of a sport horse type that you can compete on successfully under saddle. Friesians differ enormously in type, and the cart horse types do not do very well under saddle as they are not built for the work, where as the sport horse types will not do so well at the bigger breed shows.
 
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I have to say I agree with the above... What did he die from at only 15-16?? That is SO young, my horse is that age right now and 100% healthy. Could be a paddock accident but it also could be some kind of genetic disease.

Lovely horse though... I don't know, $400 seems awful low for a Friesian's stud fee. There's one in my area that's not quite as nice and HIS fee is $2200.
 
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What did he die from at only 15-16?? That is SO young, my horse is that age right now and 100% healthy.

All of the above are good reasons to look closer at this ad.

However I would like to point out that of all genders, stallions are prone to early demises.
 
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This stallion looks gorgeous... he does have great hair and conformation, but he looks a little high-strug to me. In all of the pictures, he looks very, very alert-although well behaved, but that's hard to tell from pictures- but again, I wouldn't trust his temperament. Maybe if you called and asked for a video or two to be sent to you, that would be really helpful. You could then assess his movement and temperament as well. I'm not too sure about the ad either, though... $400 is a VERY inexpensive stud fee, and if he is deceased and as fantastic a stallion as he is portrayed to be, it should be much more expensive. You never know, though! :wink:

Sorry, I kinda rambled on... hope that helped, though!
 
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Oops didn't look at the fee!
Yes, as others have said, $400 certainly seems a case of 'too good to be true'.
Over here, for frozen semen from a WB stallion you're looking at well over $3000. The fresh semen for friesians in Aus are also generally over $1000, and that's quite low as they're not hugely popular horses over here.
Keep looking.
 
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I would not breed to him simply because he is not approved. Assuming your mare is FHANA/FPS registered, why breed down? You could register the foal in the B book but the resulting foal will be worth 1/2 what an A foal would.

Friesians also historically have very poor frozen sperm counts and conception rates are some of the lowest. There's something fishy about someone dumping straws of semen.
 
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Oxer, I'm certainly not only breeding to a stallion soley on his hair quality nor did I state that in my post. I was saying that I'm not interested in breeding to a friesian that has poor hair as so many do not. I'm wanting to produce more of a sport horse foal & that's what my mare is, also she is registered with FHANA/FPS. Thank you for all the replies, several important facts have been brought to my attention so I appreciate it! Fiona is my first friesian & I've had her 4 years now, this is also my first experience breeding & choosing the stallion myself.
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i never said you did. i just had never known that you could breed a horse for their hair.... and that a person would be looking for that particular type of thing in a stallion. that's all i was stating.
 
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Honestly, if you have an FPS/FHANA mare, I'd breed to an approved stallion. If you're not looking to register with the main book, you can always consider our boy. ;) He's got more hair than the one you showed, has done exhibitions world wide, rare Age lines, excellent personality. Oh... and he's alive. lol We also ship semen.

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Take a critical look at your mare. What's her biggest area that you would like to improve upon? Find a stallion that is exemplary in those areas first. Give that foal a chance of receiving the best of both. How does the stallion's pedigree complement/work with your mare's? I would find an experienced breeder that can tell you how that mating would work out. Certain stam lines work better with some while others result in more average foals. The stallion owner will most likely approve or reject your mare based on her breeding as well. Don't be offended if someone rejects your mare. She could just be too closely bred or not well matched for that individual stallion. They want 1st premium foals out of their stallion just like you do.

There has been a recent influx of more modern young approved stallions to the US. They might only have one foal crop and a limited # but you might get a super stud fee because of that but you also can't go wrong with old proven sires. I'd go only with fresh semen. Know the motility rate of the semen and the conception rates before you put your $$ down.
 
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Just a red flag about the ad IMO- Friesians are relatively rare in Florida, and I live fairly near Palatka.. It's a very tiny town and I've never heard of any Friesian farms there, or near there. Ocala, I'd believe- that's horse country..

Here are some that may meet with your approval.. the last one Zeus, is also listed on SHN Payback..
FRIESIAN
 
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Here are some that may meet with your approval.. the last one Zeus, is also listed on SHN Payback..
FRIESIAN
Don't even bothering looking at any of these stallions. None are approved. Every approved stallion in FHANA/FPS will have a one word name followed by a #. There are probably upwards of 30 stallions in the US and Canada to choose from. You're better off going to FHANA to get information.
 
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If your mare is FHANA/FPS approved, she'll lose her approval status if you breed her to a non-approved stallion.

If that's not something you care about, then go ahead. If it is, and I can't imagine why it wouldn't be since approval is very important, then you can only breed her to approved stallions.
 
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Speed is right, app. status with FHANA/FPS is big. What about this guy, he's STUNNING and fhana approved:

Anne 340 sport: Friesian Dreams - Home of Friesian Stallion Anne 340 Sport

Anton 343: Anton 343

Iron spring Farm: Friesian Stallions - Iron Spring Farm

Doaitsen 420: Vanderploeg Friesians - setting the standard

Or better yet here's the stud link for FHANA : North American Stallions - FHANA - Friesian Horse Association of North America

Good luck with your search =)
I just want to say I've seen both Anne and Anton in person (I live near Friesian Dreams) and the people are GREAT people, the husband especially, and there is no possible way to take a photo of either stallion that does them justice. They are both completely and utterly breath taking in person! And so sweet! I believe they only have Anne now, but you'd have to pry Anne from his cold dead fingers LOL, he ADORES that horse. I highly recommend them. Anton was my favorite though :P
 
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I just went through the ad. It VERY MUCH sounds like scam to me. And pics doesn't seem to quite match (like they were taken all over the net). I say stay away. Unfortunately no suggestions on breeding as I don't know much about the breed.
 
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I didn't know she would lose her appoval status by breeding to a non appoved stallion & that is important to me so thank you for making me aware of that! All the info everyone has shared has been very helpful & I really appreciate it. I'm going to check out all of the stallions suggested & really evaluate my mare's confirmation. I'm still learning about friesians like the types, registries, etc. I didn't know a lot of the details about them just always admired/dreamed of having them. My dad asked me if i wanted a friesian or a new car for graduating college so i took the opportunity to get one lol.
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Why would you NOT breed your approved mare to an approved stud? Doesn't make sense to me.

Something about that ad seems fishy to me too. I would go with a well known and approved stud in order to give the foal a better chance should you ever have to rehome him/her.
 
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