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    10-08-2011, 11:01 AM
  #1
Green Broke
Gelded at 2, attitude?

Hi!

We just found out that my mom's QH was gelded when he was 2. This horse has a WICKED attitude, always pinning ears, pretending to bite, very protective of his mares, gets frustrated easily, ETC. He is now 11, and I was wondering of his attitude came from being gelded late.

I think that they though of keeping him as a stud, because he really is a nice looking boy (100% foundation), but he is really small (14h), so maybe they decided it would be bad to get those tine pony QH genes in their babies.

I also thought that maybe he has always had the attitude, and they gelded him because when they started him, he was kinda insane.

ANYWAY...
Do you think his attitude came from being gelded late?

Thanks
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    10-08-2011, 11:09 AM
  #2
Showing
Being gelded at two is hardly 'late'. Sounds like he just has a nasty temperament. Good thing he was gelded, since you don't want that personality being bred on.
     
    10-08-2011, 11:21 AM
  #3
Green Broke
Usually colts are gelded at like 6mos, no?
     
    10-08-2011, 11:33 AM
  #4
Green Broke
Usually the earliest is around 6 months (my colt was gelded at 5 months). But like Speed Racer said, 2 is hardly late. Many people wait until 2.

I think the attitude is more than likely why they gelded him (if he has the looks) and they were hoping for an improvement/didn't want to pass it on.

I don't think waiting until 2 is the reason for the attitude because I owned two geldings that were gelded even later and they were great. One at age 4 and one at age 8. The one gelded as an 8 yr old (a Paint) was the gentlest horse I have ever had. I even let him groom me with his mouth (normally a big no-no). But two horses is hardly a large scientific sample to go by. And both horses where in their teens when I bought them from the previous owners.

The one gelded at age 4 (Arabian) did like to flirt with the mares and could bite when cinched but looking back on it I'm sure his saddle didn't fit him properly. I was kind of young and dumb when I owned him.

But I think normally you really can't tell the ones who were gelded late vs. early.
     
    10-08-2011, 12:07 PM
  #5
Green Broke
Alright, thanks!
     
    10-08-2011, 12:29 PM
  #6
Showing
I agree with SR. 2 isn't late especially if he had never covered a mare. I had Woodstock cut a few months ago @ age 5. He came to me a rank, unhandled 3 yo stud, he was downright nasty. We worked through that while he was still intact only for him to get injured so he got the snip. It took my bossiest mare all of 30 seconds to take his big boy demeanor down a few notches when I kicked him out with the herd. He's now a very docile gelding :)

It sounds like he just has a bad attitude in general and needs to learn some boundaries & respect.
     
    10-08-2011, 02:09 PM
  #7
Started
I don't think age has anything to do at all with a gelding's attitude, or a stallion's attitide. It depends on the horse. My Arabian gelding was not gelded until he was 7 years old, he was used for breeding (and some showing) prior to that. He was a quiet and sweet, well-mannered stallion, and he was also a sweet and well-mannered gelding that anyone could ride or handle. Temperament is more about the individual horse, and sometimes bloodlines (inherited from sire or dam), and handling when young.
     
    10-08-2011, 02:15 PM
  #8
Showing
I'm with everyone else. I rode a Peruvian paso gelding who was standing at stud until he was 13 (only reason the owner had him cut was because he was getting out of the horse breeding business due to his wife's cancer...he gave the gelding to a vet tech I worked with and she let me ride him for her 'cuz he hated her lol). He was the sweetest, gentlest horse I've met in a while (at least until my Aires came along).

Aires wasn't gelded until he was two-years-old because the BO didn't see a point in gelding him until he was sold since he was not acting like a stud at all...until I bought him and then he started to bite, but that was the extent of it. There was another colt rescued from the same farm as Aires that was the same age that had been gelded as a yearling because he was turning very studdy. He was also fairly pushy and had a bad attitude (especially with the other geldings) once he was gelded.
     
    10-08-2011, 03:06 PM
  #9
Trained
It might not have been late.
Most horses aren't gelded until they fully drop. So it may have taken him longer.
I like MHFoundation's suggestion, turn him out with a far superior horse in the
Herd. I had a gelding that was completely docile until he was around another
Gelding, the "stud" in him would come out and he would run them through/over/
Under any fence he could find! We put him out with a 17h 1,500Lb.+ Clydesdale
And he quickly learned his place! Under strict supervision of course.
     
    10-08-2011, 06:16 PM
  #10
Weanling
See I don't see bad behavior being a sex issue its a training issue. Imo I hold all of my horses to a high level of behavior standards because to me its a safety issue. This horse sounds to me like he has yalls number and calls it daily he has gotten away with this behavior far to long and needs to be put in his place...yall need to become the boss mare.
     

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