this is going to tan alot of peoples hides (Sorry)
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Horse Breeds, Breeding, and Genetics > Horse Breeding

this is going to tan alot of peoples hides (Sorry)

This is a discussion on this is going to tan alot of peoples hides (Sorry) within the Horse Breeding forums, part of the Horse Breeds, Breeding, and Genetics category

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        02-12-2011, 09:41 AM
      #1
    Foal
    Smile this is going to tan alot of peoples hides (Sorry)

    Just found this, very cool article, glad to know I'm not the only one proud of there unregistered and goofy looking horses


    If you are new to riding and interested in buying your first horse, consider a grade horse. This may be a great purchase for you.
    A grade horse is a mixed breed horse. This is analogous to a mutt in the dog world and an alley cat in the feline world. They are also called unregistered or without a pedigree.
    Sometimes a grade horse results from a mistake. Someone's fine stallion jumped over the fence. He got close up and personal with the neighbor's ready brood mare. More often, however, the breeding of a grade horse is not a mistake, but intentionally desired by a savvy horse person.
    Here's a list of reasons why I think a mixed breed is an excellent choice for a beginning rider:
    1. Cost.
    Grade horses are usually less expensive to buy than purebred animals.
    2. Temperament.
    These beasts characteristically are calmer and less "hot" than non-mixed breeds. Since purely bred horses are often maximized for their show potential, a high-strung, alert demeanor is valued more highly than is quietness. A saddlebred on the show circuit may be an example of this. Nervousness, however, is counterproductive for a new rider who is learning basic riding and horse care skills.
    3. Physical Constitution.
    Grade horses can have bigger bone and more substantial feet than purebred horses. The later are often bred to exhibit the extremes of characteristics of their type. For example, a quarter horse may be valued for having small "typey" hoofs. An Arabian may be seen as beautiful because of having slender legs (small bone). On the other hand, some heaviness of bone and largeness of feet are healthy in a normal horse. This sturdiness can make your new companion less prone to injury.
    4. Early Training.
    Because grade horses many a time are not bred or purchased for the show ring, they may be brought along more slowly in their first years of training. Frequently, a lower level of performance is expected of them. This can actually be an advantage because slow, reinforced training may stick better with the horse.
    5. Lower Physical and Emotional Stress.
    Slower early training and even temperament can lead to a good life cycle: there are fewer ongoing training stressors both physically and emotionally. This continues to reinforce good behavior and steady performance over time.
    To sum up, temperament, previous training and future train-ability, and likelihood of staying sound for years are among the leading factors to consider when you, a beginner, are going to buy your first horse. A grade horse may fit the bill in all of these ways.

    Jaye Barry loved horses when she was a child, learned to ride as a young adult, and brought her boarded horses home to live with her on a small ranch when she became an older adult. She writes to share her lifetime of admiration for these animal friends, and to help others come to know and feel comfortable with horses.


    This is how I see it


    If you aren't showing you and aren't trying to make that next halter point earner but you can train your foal to be the best it could be then why not breed I would rather buy a sound and safe unregistered horse than a half crazy hot headed purebred, not only that but my Paloma and Molly are straighter legged than my registered cochise. Lol


    So as long as you know that your unpapered baby will never bring the amount of money, will never go far in the show ring, but will take you all over hell and creation and back as a sturdy trail companion do what you want but always remember to still breed responsibly (don't re breed your mare with in a month of its last foal and always look for homes before hand weather it be your neighbor or whatever, just use common sense)
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        02-12-2011, 10:49 AM
      #2
    Green Broke
    While I completely agree with the point of the post, being that grades are better than expensive registered horses (aside from the paints, appys, and QHs, imo). I'd also like to argue your last point-just because they aren't as hot as some registered, pure horses; there's no truth in saying that they won't ever win you money in shows. My friend has a grade pony that we both ride, and both he and his lease show. His times for games could get him to atleast states (if his lease wouldn't hold him back, or learn a better seat since he's the babysitter type), if not regionals. He's won halter classes at state fairs as well. My friend came home (after a week at fair) with over $120, just for the classes he won, not mentioning the classes that his lease won.
    But anyway-back to the point: I completely agree with looking at grade horses for the first horse, of you want to do trails, learn to jump, barrel race, show, etc.(:
    Posted via Mobile Device
         
        02-12-2011, 11:03 AM
      #3
    Foal
    Won't tan my hide, you can't ride papers and although I have bred QH's in the past, by no means does that make me believe that only register horses have a place in our world... After years of inbreeding, line breeding and just stupid people breeding to "enhance" the breed, I would choose a horse that has the traits I want no matter if it was papered or not!! Too many people will only buy a horse for its breeding or color...... guess you will never be able to fix stupid! Some of the registries allow outside breeds, like Arabians(not bashing them just using them as example), so what you have is a registered mutt that has papers because someone wanted to allow Paints so they could have an Arabian with spots! Paints and QH's allow crossing, course I never understood the reason to have the two separate to begin with... Same dang horse just one day a crop out was thrown and there you go, we get paints.. So I guess with all the different registries out there you can even take a grade horse and get it registered somewhere.. Here in calif the breeds have been so over bred, the industry ran itself into the ground, although I have seen a turn toward people buying good sound riding horses whether they are papered or not... and alot of untrained registered horses are sold by private parties or through the sales for next to nothing... very sad and when they are hauled off to slaughter it doesn't matter if they have papers or not.... (and yes I know slaughter has been outlawed here, but they are still bought and transported to Canada and Mexico whether you want to believe it or not) But as for you post, a unregistered horse can make you money just like any registered horse... find yourself a horse that can run barrels, jump, rope, do timed events and do endurance and it doesnt matter if its registered or not... if its good, it can make you money and will sell for good $$ ;o)
         
        02-12-2011, 11:14 AM
      #4
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Iseul    
    While I completely agree with the point of the post, being that grades are better than expensive registered horses (aside from the paints, appys, and QHs, imo).

    Oh ?

    So you think that paints,appys, and QH are the ONLY registered horses that are better than a grade horse !
         
        02-12-2011, 11:18 AM
      #5
    Trained
    Well - I say - that there are TONS of people out there breeding "Grade" horses in their backyards on a regular basis...so why add more to the overpopulation as it is?

    Why breed, if you aren't improving the line's and the quality of the animals? Why breed "blah" - just to get more "blah"????????????????????????????

    My point is - is that it'll cost you just as much, if not more to breed crap, to get crap - when all you have to do is go to a local auction, or someone's back yard , and spend less on a horse that will please you for years to come - instead of adding more unwanted, into this over populated world?
         
        02-12-2011, 11:20 AM
      #6
    Foal
    good point

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MIEventer    
    Well - I say - that there are TONS of people out there breeding "Grade" horses in their backyards on a regular basis...so why add more to the overpopulation as it is?

    Why breed, if you aren't improving the line's and the quality of the animals? Why breed "blah" - just to get more "blah"????????????????????????????

    My point is - is that it'll cost you just as much, if not more to breed crap, to get crap - when all you have to do is go to a local auction, or someone's back yard , and spend less on a horse that will please you for years to come - instead of adding more unwanted, into this over populated world?
    but like I said breed responsibly. Just use common sense

    And the same could go for purebreds, most of the time you get blah and then you get Secretariat then his offspring were yet again blah same can go for grades
         
        02-12-2011, 11:35 AM
      #7
    slc
    Weanling
    Generalizations, and very, no justification for ANY of the points listed.

    Grades have bigger feet and bone. Grades are calmer, easier to train, blah blah blah. All nonsense.

    Grades aren't even guaranteed to be cheaper. People create made up registries for the grades they produce, and charge 30k for them.
         
        02-12-2011, 11:36 AM
      #8
    Banned
    Ehhh. Better be careful bout breeding mutts a lot, cause that might put them in bad situations. Cause unfortunately not everyone goes for mutts as a show horse, and if you breed and decide to sell that horse might end up at slaughter.

    I agree that mutts are good and sweet horses, but I think you should just get them from auctions rather than breeding them.
         
        02-12-2011, 11:48 AM
      #9
    Foal
    again

    If you aren't showing you and aren't trying to make that next halter point earner but you can train your foal to be the best it could be then why not breed I would rather buy a sound and safe unregistered horse than a half crazy hot headed purebred, not only that but my Paloma and Molly are straighter legged than my registered cochise. Lol
    So as long as you know that your unpapered baby will never bring the amount of money, will never go far in the show ring, but will take you all over hell and creation and back as a sturdy trail companion do what you want but always remember to still breed responsibly (don't re breed your mare with in a month of its last foal and always look for homes before hand weather it be your neighbor or whatever, just use common sense)

    Read more: this is going to tan alot of peoples hides (Sorry)

    I'm not trying to change your minds
    But to maybe enlighten a few
    And maybe make it easier to understand
    Why we do the things we do.

    (Just made that up)

    Poet and didn't no it
         
        02-12-2011, 12:12 PM
      #10
    Green Broke
    I have no problem with grade horses, but just because you CAN breed a grade horse that someone MAY want doesn't mean that you SHOULD. Just because there is a place for them doesn't give instant approval to just go breed your horses because you have found one article to back you up. There is still too much breeding going on, both registered AND not, and absolutely no reason to breed when you can go and BUY a horse that will do exactly what you want without bringing yet another horse into the world to glut the market even more.
         

    Quick Reply
    Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
    Message:
    Options

    Register Now

    In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

    Already have a Horse Forum account?
    Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

    New to the Horse Forum?
    Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

    User Name:
    Password
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
    Password:
    Confirm Password:
    Email Address
    Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
    Email Address:

    Log-in

    Human Verification

    In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


    Old Thread Warning
    This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Hi Peoples!!! HorseCrazy6 Meet the Community 3 06-12-2010 10:08 PM
    too young? -hides from bullets- Go The Distance Horse Training 17 05-29-2009 05:12 PM
    RIDING CRITIQUE *hides* me and Jeddah jeddah31 Horse Riding Critique 12 04-02-2009 12:01 AM
    calling all brisbane peoples jazzyrider Horse Health 7 01-08-2008 04:08 AM
    Here are some peoples signatures!!! * Dusky Cowgirl * Horse Pictures 6 03-05-2007 04:02 AM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:06 AM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0