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post #21 of 26 Old 07-06-2009, 10:00 PM
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post #22 of 26 Old 07-06-2009, 11:03 PM
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gorgeous girl, how do you get palomino and cremello out of the thoroughbreds?

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post #23 of 26 Old 07-07-2009, 06:56 AM Thread Starter
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gorgeous girl, how do you get palomino and cremello out of the thoroughbreds?
Thanks. And is the 64 million dollar question ...

Bloodtyping and DNA only came in to being in the '70's (or maybe the 80's???) so up til then, they relied on the "honor system" of saying this foal is by THAT stallion. In the case of Milkie, born in the '50's, when he popped out as a palomino, everyone felt a Quarter Horse stallion up the road jumped a fence, bred the mare, and Milkie was conceived

The owner of the sire came over, said "nope. Deer Lodge (the sire) throws a very distinctive shaped foot. Milkie has that foot, therefore he is the offspring of my stallion" and that was that. That was all the proof the JC needed to register him as a TB.

Was he the result of a fence jumping QH??? Who knows and who cares 50++ years later ... and there is no way of proving or disproving anything now anyhow

It has been said that Glitter Please came from Saddlebred lines, Again - so many years ago, who knows and who cares???

The dilute gene can visually "hide" in the smoky black and smoky brown colours, so it IS possible that through the ages smoky blacks were born, people simply thought they had a brown or bay horse, didnt think anything of it, until they were bred and buckskin's and palomino's started popping out. That IS possible, or maybe Milkie truly did come from AQHA blood way back when

It makes for interesting discussion if nothing else every time this subject comes up ...

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Could also be possible that TB breeders WERE getting dilutes, 100% pure TB, but they were culled (not necessary by death, but just sold as grades). I have a lot less knowledge of TBs, but that's something that COULD be possible, who knows, right? :)
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CheyAut - agreed. Anything is possible!

I know Sam Son Farms, a huge and reputable breeding outfit up here in Canada that won major awards and races with their TB race horses, produced a bay colt with 4 high whites and a white face and a huge belly splotch on him

Even with their connections and reputation, it took until he was 4 or 5 years of age before the JC would issue papers on him (and this is going back to the 70's or 80's when you just didnt see TB's like this at all out there! ) and by then it was too late. He would have had to break his maiden (win a race) before he turned 5 (back in those days the limit was 4 years of age) and they could run him without papers, so they sold him to a friend that showed him instead

COuld the same have happened to dilutes? Absolutely, totally and completely, so the funny looking ones with white manes and tails may well have been stuck in the back field and never registered at all ...

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hmm interesting. O well, you have gorgeous horses! O so I aslo win 64 million dollars???? Lol

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