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post #11 of 34 Old 02-21-2008, 11:13 PM
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Nope, mine had no dark pigment.
I found a picture of a horse that looks similar to my old guy, here:


I've never seen a cremello with darker pigment around the eyes, but I'm sure it's possible.
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post #12 of 34 Old 02-22-2008, 05:12 AM Thread Starter
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He might be very pretty. I've found a photo about our pony too, she turns over her head but the eyeline is still visible.
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post #13 of 34 Old 03-07-2008, 02:33 PM
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You would be surprised to learn that a majority of people do not like double dilutes. They do not do well in the show ring and any good breeder is breeding his stud for show quality prospects so that the stud fee can be increased and they make money.

Three years ago, I bred my Buckskin mare to a Perlino stud. We got a Cremello stud colt. It was very difficult to sell my colt because he was a double dilute. I ended up selling him for nothing to a family that wanted him for breeding purposes.

There are a few in the States that don't care about the color of the mare. Not sure if they ship oversees.
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post #14 of 34 Old 03-07-2008, 04:22 PM Thread Starter
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It's interesting you said that ceremllos are not so popular. Since we last met on the forum, I've got two replys from breeders who don't allow diluted mares to be bred with their diluted stallions and they answered very sincerely that they don't want any competition on their business.

We breed for sport, especially for showjumping. There are two diluted lines in Hungary, both stallions are about 20 years old, and former breeders did not take care of maintaining the dilution rate among the foals, grandsons and granddaughters, so many of their offsprings are not diluted. But they have good sport peformance.

What kind of coloureds do you breed? TWH or other show horses?
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post #15 of 34 Old 09-26-2008, 11:00 AM
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how do you get the lethal white gene, is that why???

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post #16 of 34 Old 09-29-2008, 12:55 AM
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how do you get the lethal white gene, is that why???
Overo Lethal White comes when you breed two Frame Overo horses that are carriers together. You have a 25% chance of having a lethal foal. It comes out all white and dies within 48 hours of birth. A seemingly solid colored horse with Overo in its background CAN carry the OLWS gene. That is why is it very important to have all paints and QH (QH who trace to known frame lines) tested for lethal white. It's an easy and relatively inexpensive test.

http://www.petdnaservicesaz.com/Equine.html
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post #17 of 34 Old 09-29-2008, 09:04 PM
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I've also noticed that other studs, can only be bred to a specific breed and specific colors too. I don't understand it. I believe it was a national show horse that could only be bred to other NSH that were bay. Or something like that.

Daroczy, what if you e-mailed the people with the stud and asked them? I'm thinking that would be a way to know.
Many stallion owners will only breed to better their specific breed. EX. many AQHA stallions will breed to AQHA or APHA mares only. I agree with it, personally.
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post #18 of 34 Old 09-29-2008, 09:05 PM
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This stallion is an excellent example of the AQHA breed in the color of your choice and they say nothing about what color mares they will only breed to. I would think you would have a harder time finding someone willing to ship AI overseas.

http://www.lattefarms.com/
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post #19 of 34 Old 09-29-2008, 09:14 PM
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I would assume the color is due to not wanting competition. As long as their cremello color stays rare, they will get more customers going to them who wants a gauranteed palomino or buckskin.

Not breeding to other breeds - that is because they don't want to produce grades. In many breeds it is frowned upon to create crosses and grades because they are typically seen as a lower-value horse than a purebred registered horse.
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post #20 of 34 Old 09-29-2008, 09:16 PM
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Not breeding to other breeds - that is because they don't want to produce grades. In many breeds it is frowned upon to create crosses and grades because they are typically seen as a lower-value horse than a purebred registered horse.
Exactley! That's what I was saying.
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