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        04-18-2009, 11:55 PM
    So then why even bother commenting?

    CJ, that's the worst seems like all of these wonky crosses have faults like that that really limit them.
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        04-18-2009, 11:58 PM
    Why? Same reason anyone does I have an opinion on the subject. Why did you comment about it?
        04-19-2009, 12:00 AM
    That was my point. Even though its non of your or my business(mine especially since I don't breed personally) we still have opinions.
        04-19-2009, 12:02 AM
    Thats right we do and the reason you think I should not have posted mine is?
        04-19-2009, 12:06 AM
    I don't think you shouldn't have posted yours.
    Just in your post before I asked that, you said it was none of your business. My reason for asking was just to point out that that doesn't keep us from having opinions.
        04-19-2009, 12:25 AM
    I personally find it insulting to just cross cross cross these breeds without careful selection. It's insulting to me as a horse person and I feel, insulting to the breeders who breed horses to improve the lines and produce fantastic family or show animals.

    A Friesian stands anywhere from 15-16hh with a light, but thick build. A Gypsy ranges from 13-14, sometimes 15 but generally there small, but also built more like a draft. Why would you try to cross something like that?! It's most certainly not going to be a spotted Friesian coming out.

    Think about what Sky said about the Friesian x App. Just because you want color, doesn't mean you should do it.

    The people breeding the Friesian x Gypsy also do a lot of QH and Paint Friesian crosses. From what I could see they had generally poor conformation. One had a huge butt and tiny little chest. It was, well, icky.

    There Friesian sire, in my opinion, has a rather long back and small rump and chest. Not every colt is meant to go forth and multiply.

    Everyone has the right to profit from there horses. But if you breed JUST BECAUSE it might be pretty and sell for 5-8k then maybe you shouldn't be doing it at all.

    Breed to better the breed. Then profit.
        04-19-2009, 12:37 AM
    Originally Posted by county    
    Not 100% sure just what you mean from your original post but there is no to far what a person wants to do as long as its legal. You may not breed a certain thing, I may not breed a certain thing but we have the choice not to. Someone else has the same rights we do to breed if they so choose. As long as no law is broken then so be it.
    Is it legal? Yes.
    Is it morally correct? No.

    All it does it put a bad image on other breeders, the breed, everything. Personally, if I was a new horse owner who bought a Friesian cross that turned out to be full of health issues, I would probably be against the breed.
    And think! What if those cross foals don't sell? We've all herd the killer buyer horror stories. It's a future that glows scarily bright for many, many poorly bred horses.

    I do understand your post completely. But, I'm not talking about legal issues here, I'm asking the opinion of the community, of other horse people whom may or may not breed themselves.
    I find such careless crossing is a insult to the breeder, breeders, to the industry, to myself as a person who loves and enjoys horses.
        04-19-2009, 01:07 AM
    It is apathetic people who think it's is none of their business what others do with their horses that allow the continuance of pratices which are immoral and downright bad for the horse world. If people continued to think it's none of my business 100 years ago horses would still be getting beaten into submission (I know this still happens but not as much) on a regular basis. It is only when people stand up for what they think is right that change can happen. I don't blame you for wanting to just get on with your own life, standing up and speaking out is hard work. But it is the most valuable work you can do. And I definitely agree that just because it is legal doesn't mean it is right. Laws don't change until people stand up and speak out and want them to.
        04-19-2009, 07:55 AM
    I have always said they remind me of designer dogs. Ughhh. You know like labordoodles etc. Its whatever is fashionable at the moment and the poor animals pay for it.
        04-19-2009, 08:08 AM
    Yea im pretty sure a friend of mine has a mare that's bred to a friesian

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