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        04-19-2009, 10:16 PM
      #51
    Trained
    I agree Kentucky. It's not so much over here, in fact hardly at all, but I hear about it all the time over there.
         
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        04-19-2009, 10:18 PM
      #52
    Trained
    Quote:
    And if your in the breeding business to make a living rest assured making a profit is the number #1 goal. I don't know anyone that has a business or a job where the main goal is not to make money. Unless I suppose someone else supports them then maybe so.
    Generally, breeding well and establishing a reputation for producing good horses will make you more money.
         
        04-19-2009, 10:28 PM
      #53
    Weanling
    I agree and said no less, but the bottom line is you make money or you fold up unless you do it for a hobby.
         
        04-20-2009, 08:24 AM
      #54
    Showing
    Of course almost any breeding is for profit (there are exceptions to the rule like getting a baby from own mare and keep it for yourself and so on, but generally it's for money). In the end breeding is a business like any other. Nothing wrong with it.

    Should the breeding be responsible? ABSOLUTELY. The breeder deals with LIVE creatures, and I think that type of business should require much, much higher level of knowledge and responsibility than say selling books. If something goes wrong (s)he can't just throw the horse in garbage (however some do right there by sending bunch of babies to the auction to get at least some bucks out of them). If someone crosses for color, or hairy legs, or "nice disposition" (look my mare never bucks!), or something else "cool" without putting a single thought in it or doing simple "home research" - it's just ridiculous. Unfortunately it happens all the time...
         
        04-22-2009, 02:00 AM
      #55
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jessabel    
    When's the last time you saw a Gypsy or Gypsy cross in the Grand Prix, or any kind of significant competition? Never. They're not that great.
    I've got a gypsy and regardless of whether she's got a closet full of ribbons or not, I really think she's a useful, versatile, powerful, and beautiful animal, even great in my opinion. I don't think the gypsy horse as a breed deserves a bad reputation and I don't think it's fair to lump gypsy horses and gypsy crosses in one category.

    I don't like seeing horses of any breed bred or crossed without consideration for the soundness, usefullness, and the future of the resulting animal. It's a big topic that spans many different breeds, but if we're talking specifically about the crosses with gypsies and fresians, then maybe those registries should take efforts to discourage or limit the crossing of their mares and studs to other breeds. It's plain to see that irresponsible breeding degrades the reputation of the breed, so it seems logical to make it a mission of the breed officials to keep the practice under control. I don't see an effective method of limiting the crosses with any smaller action, and a larger action might put an uncomfortable level of government interference in all horse-owners' lives.

    It's all a lot to think about and trying to imagine a solution is overwhelming.
         
        04-22-2009, 10:11 AM
      #56
    Chat Moderator
    Sarah Wood, I agree with you competely, that is very well said.
         
        04-23-2009, 09:19 PM
      #57
    Weanling
    When I was young, my trainer bred an Appy mare to a Percheron. The filly came out basically a bay Percheron with spots on her butt. An odd combo I would never have thought of doing, but she sure was cute.

    Forgive my ignorance... what is a Gypsy? I have been out of the loop for a while and not sure I have heard of this before. Sarah, I looked at your horse and it looks like a painted Friesian to me. LOL :S
         
        04-23-2009, 10:20 PM
      #58
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shawneen    
    what is a Gypsy?
    I assume it's Gypsy Vanner. ER Gypsy, Gypsy Vanner Ranch

    I personally think they are nice looking horses, but too overpriced here in US. I heard (not 100% it's true) they are on cheap side in Europe.
         
        04-23-2009, 10:40 PM
      #59
    Weanling
    Thanks Val I'm reading now. They still look like painted Friesians to me. Amazingly they are average only 13.3h to 15.2h. WOW
         
        04-27-2009, 02:37 AM
      #60
    Foal
    Gypsy horses are heavier than friesians, really beefy... Some folks go for the lighter ones, but most of the people I know want thick and meaty ones. Here's the site I'd recommend for reading if you're interested in the breed: Information and Education
         

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