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post #11 of 34 Old 12-13-2011, 07:01 PM
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^^What nrhareiner said.

To knowledgeable people seeking a high quality horse for a particular discipline, they are very important when selecting yearlings.

The general rule of thumb is the more specialized the discipline, the more imortant the bloodlines. Cutting is a very specialized discipline requiring an overall conformation and ability that is different than "just" a Quarterhorse. Racing TB's would be another example of highly specialized horses.

As someone has already said, the proper bloodlines, and the proper mix of bloodlines, greatly improve the odds of producing a high quality horses. But they do not guarantee it...
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post #12 of 34 Old 12-13-2011, 07:34 PM
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they don't mean much to me but if registered to go to show. I have 2 registered and one not, but they are all the same really I know the 2 parents, grand.... but even with the horse that I know nothing about they all eat and brreath with or with out papers.
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Ditto what other people have said, regarding papers being extremely important to me. I agree with the usual, tracing blood history, seeing what the bloodline already throws etc. I would just add, that if you have a good horse with good bloodlines, that could make all the difference. Sure, some people just care about the flesh in front of them, and if it's a good horse, they will take it. Others, like me, care about the flesh in front of me, and the blood behind that flesh. You are hedging your bets - if you ever need to sell, you are appealing to more people in the market.

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I kind of live by, "You can't know where you're going if you don't know where you've been.". Bloodlines are the where you've been that can predict where you might go.

Also when shopping, especially if it's a big sale type venue, I look for bloodlines that I know I like and look at those horses first. So, I love Padron and Muscat, thos 2 sire lines are the first things I look for when looking to sort interest from disinterest. Doesn't mean I'll take just anything because they're in there but I'll look a little closer, quicker because they are.

I recently went to a QH production sale and after walking the barn and studying the horses I was drawn to, I found that there were 4 sires consistantly in the pedigrees of all of the horse's whose numbers I circled to watch and maybe bid on during the sale. They all had a some combination of Dun Up The Assets, Trevallion, Classical Skipper, and Conclusive in their pedigrees. Maybe not all together but at least 2 out of the 4. I ended up with a cremello 2 year old by Dun Up the Assets out of Bucki Seal, who is by Skip My Heir (Classical Skipper) and out of Ms Sealy Brown by Conclusive Lee. Skip N Seall Quarter Horse, here's a link to his pedigree.

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Hope he is N/N Dream... Doesn't say anywhere what Ms Sealy Brown's status is.
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Hope he is N/N Dream... Doesn't say anywhere what Ms Sealy Brown's status is.

He was tested N/N, I confirmed that before I bought him.

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Papers are important to me because I like to look up the horses in mine's background, just to see if they're pretty or not. Lol

I believe in a horse proving their worth by their work, which is the same belief I have concerning people.
No piece of paper would convince me to buy a horse easier than a great heart and/or amazing work ethic. I'd rather have a butt-ugly horse that I got for free without knowing their ancestry than a horse that was good looking and had proven horses in their background, as long as the horse had a big heart and could get things done....
Although I'm not saying papers are useless. It's always a plus to know the background of a horse, but basing a horse's worth on that just doesn't cut it for me. I don't even know what breed one of my horses is, and he's amazing- big heart, kind, and amazingly determined. I wouldn't trade him for all the expensive, well-bred horses in the world.

I'd just like to add, though, that I'm not in the horse business- I don't need to sell, when I buy, I buy for good, and if I think the horse may have to be sold later, I don't buy. If you're in the business of horses, papers DO matter much more.

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No piece of paper would convince me to buy a horse easier than a great heart and/or amazing work ethic. I'd rather have a butt-ugly horse that I got for free without knowing their ancestry than a horse that was good looking and had proven horses in their background, as long as the horse had a big heart and could get things done....
Although I'm not saying papers are useless. It's always a plus to know the background of a horse, but basing a horse's worth on that just doesn't cut it for me. I don't even know what breed one of my horses is, and he's amazing- big heart, kind, and amazingly determined. I wouldn't trade him for all the expensive, well-bred horses in the world.
Things is that people seem to think you will only have one or the other. Which is not true at all. Well bred horses are well bred for a reason. If the horse lives up to the pedigree that makes it well bred horse then it should be a horse with a good work ethic and a big heart for the work it is meant to do.

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If I am looking for a specific type horse for a specific type discipline, bloodlines are going to be my guideline. Also the same is true for avoiding certain bloodlines, as they would have traits I am not interested in.
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Things is that people seem to think you will only have one or the other. Which is not true at all. Well bred horses are well bred for a reason. If the horse lives up to the pedigree that makes it well bred horse then it should be a horse with a good work ethic and a big heart for the work it is meant to do.
I never said that. I said that a piece of paper isn't what counts to me, basically. I know well bred horses are well bred for a reason, and I have nothing against them or good breeding. I'm talking about people that SOLELY judge by their papers- like, let's say the horse is great, but has none, or the horse is ugly or has nothing going for it but it's bloodlines.
It's naive to think that a horse with good pedigree will automatically be great, because although that gives a much better chance, it's no guarantee. Unfortunately, there are people who think that it is, and end up making serious mistakes.
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