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        10-01-2010, 11:01 AM
      #1
    Weanling
    I have a new stallion who is HZ grey ...

    And I will be breeding him to my smoky black filly - Nightlight - in the spring of 2011.

    I have seen buckskins that turn grey over time, but no pictures at all of smoky blacks or palomino's that go grey

    Does anyone have any to share? And I'd LOVE to see some from birth to 3-5-7-9 years of age if anyone actually took them in sequence!

    Thanks so much!
         
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        10-01-2010, 11:39 AM
      #2
    Green Broke
    Where are the pics of your new stud?
         
        10-01-2010, 11:55 AM
      #3
    Weanling
    Here you go:

    http://www.angelfire.com/on3/TrueColoursFarm/Winner.html

    All he has produced that we have been able to find are greys, so we *assume* that he is in fact HZ but I will probably yank hairs and send them off to be sure ...

    Here are a couple of pics of Winner:



    And:



    And:



    And these are several of his offspring that are currently competing at the GP level in Europe:











    So - I KNOW the foal out of Nightlight is going to grey out eventually no matter what colour it is at birth, but the cross will be an amazing one and as much as I said I didnt want greys in my breeding program, with this guy - I've made an exception!
         
        10-01-2010, 12:13 PM
      #4
    Green Broke
    Wow you've got yourself yet another stunning horse! Lucky : )
         
        10-01-2010, 12:17 PM
      #5
    Banned
    Why would you want to breed a horse of an interesting color and add a graying gene just so that color goes away? I am confused.
         
        10-01-2010, 12:42 PM
      #6
    Weanling
    Wow that second pic of the GP offspring...

    That horse is really reaching!
         
        10-01-2010, 12:43 PM
      #7
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Why would you want to breed a horse of an interesting color and add a graying gene just so that color goes away? I am confused.
    Dont be ...

    Winner is a World Class stallion that competed in the GP's over in Europe and represented his country in a Nations Cup in Germany in the late '90's. His VERY limited offspring have also succeeded and won and placed at major GP's in Europe as well

    I have always said that I HATED and had little regard for those who bred for colour and nothing else and that if their offspring werent palomino or buckskin or smoky black no one would want them if they were plain bay or chestnut. To that end, I am breeding for a superior, athletic, correct individual that will have a market regardless of whatever colour it comes out and then if it has a neat colour and / or interesting markings - so much the better, but that is not the sole reason for my pairings - to get "colour"

    So this will be one of those foals that "sneaks in under the radar" in future years in the breeding shed, if that is the career path it ends up taking. Buckskin and palomino foals will start popping out of this "grey" horse and will leave people scratching their heads wondering how the heck THAT happened!

    But Winner is the absolute best breeding choice I could make for this mare and I have to put his grey colour completely aside in my decision

    Make sense?
         
        10-02-2010, 02:59 AM
      #8
    Trained
    It is really refreshing to see a breeder with an attitude like yours! I am in awe - you are a star!!! If we had more breeders like you, then we would have far less problems in the horse world - good job!!
         
        10-02-2010, 05:50 AM
      #9
    Started
    I have no input because I'm not well educated in breeding but I do want to say you have yourself a very pretty boy!
         
        10-02-2010, 05:52 AM
      #10
    Started
    Pretty sure ACC can show you a palomino going grey, I know I've seen the pics before. They usually get darker before they get lighter.
         

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