I never understood this - Page 2 - The Horse Forum

 12Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 20 Old 05-05-2012, 10:00 PM Thread Starter
Started
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,877
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Just because a horse isn't riding sound, doesn't mean they can't be bred
I never said that, im just saying if the horse can barley walk why are they breeding her? Its one think if they can't be ridden but are happy carrying a baby. But this horse just looked miserable

Yes I understand it has to do with the extend of the injury etc but I think the horse I knew was to risky to breed
Casey02 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 20 Old 05-05-2012, 10:14 PM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Indiana
Posts: 4,378
• Horses: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey02 View Post
I never said that, im just saying if the horse can barley walk why are they breeding her? Its one think if they can't be ridden but are happy carrying a baby. But this horse just looked miserable

Yes I understand it has to do with the extend of the injury etc but I think the horse I knew was to risky to breed
Yes, but you took a very specific situation and created a very generalized question - which is what is being responded to.
Ripper likes this.
themacpack is offline  
post #13 of 20 Old 05-05-2012, 10:18 PM Thread Starter
Started
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,877
• Horses: 0
Yes I get that, just wondering why. And I have recieved some nice answers
Casey02 is offline  
post #14 of 20 Old 05-06-2012, 11:46 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 902
• Horses: 0
I would think if the mare is lame due to a congenital abnormality, then it would be tantamount to insanity to use her as a broodmare and pass along the same genetic possibilities to her foal/future horses in the line, even if it did skip the initial foal...

IF she is dealing with an injury based in no manner upon any weakness inherent to her, but rather, she (for example) suffered a bad fall or random accident, and has valuable genetics to pass along, AND she can comfortably foal, I say give her the opportunity to be bred, (to a sire of value as well, of course).

Just my inexperienced point of view... :0)
AnitaAnne likes this.

"I'm too busy working on my own grass to notice if yours is greener"
Back2Horseback is offline  
post #15 of 20 Old 05-07-2012, 09:24 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Branson
Posts: 4,264
• Horses: 0
It depends upon the reason for the unsoundness. If it is in any way genetic, such as in TB race horses that sustain injuries due to poor bone, white tissue, joints, and hooves, then the mare shouldn't be bred. If the injury was some sort of accident not attributable to a conformation fault, and if the mare can safely carry the extra weight, I see nothing wrong with breeding her...assuming of course she is bred responsibly...
smrobs and Walkamile like this.
Faceman is offline  
post #16 of 20 Old 05-07-2012, 03:11 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,919
• Horses: 0
I'm with Faceman on this one. If she is lame due to an injury not something genetic I would breed her. Maybe wait until she is walking better.
I have a mare whose hooves were mangled in a bad trimming job the vet said it would take a year to heal. She was given to someone and they were riding her within a month. Now she is probably lame for life.
I intend to breed her if she is not in pain after giving her plenty of time to heal and getting corrective shoes every 4-6 weeks. Shalom
dbarabians is offline  
post #17 of 20 Old 05-07-2012, 03:22 PM
Showing
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Higgins, TX. YeeHaw!!
Posts: 22,115
• Horses: 24
I also agree with Face, it would greatly depend on the cause of the lameness. If it's something genetic or due to conformation (even something like Navicular, I wouldn't breed), then heck no, I wouldn't breed her.

However, if it was a mechanical lameness due to an injury/accident/infection/ect that was healed and didn't cause her pain and she could safely carry the added weight, then I might breed her if she was breeding worthy.

I know it's not a mare, but there is a local breeder that has a stud that has never been ridden due to an injury suffered when he was a yearling. From day 1, this horse was destined to be the breeder's next stud and if he hadn't been injured, would have been trained and proven in his discipline. The fact that he was unsound didn't change the fact that he had spectacular bloodlines and has produced many winning foals throughout his lifetime.

Always remember that feeling of looking at a big, open country over the ears of a good horse, seeing a new trail unwind ahead of you, and that ever-spectacular view from the top of the ridge!!! Follow my training blog: http://robertsontraining.blogspot.com/
smrobs is offline  
post #18 of 20 Old 05-07-2012, 03:58 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: N.W. Ohio
Posts: 5,344
• Horses: 0
There are many things to look at when you have a mare who is not sound for riding as to breeding her.

First would be WHY is she now sound. It is a gentic defect or an injury? If it is an injury not related to a defect in the mare then that is one thing to think about.

Next. YOU MUST look at the quality of the mare. If she is of true quality and is a good broodmare canadate then again by all means breed her.

I have no problems breeding a mare who is not sound to ride. Keep in mind that the extra weight on the horse is not all that much and is only the last couple of months. So not a big problem.


Next and this is the big things that you need to think about and it has already been touched on. If all the other things are good. The mare has good conformation good breeding and so on then it comes down to this. Lets say that the mare is not good and her un soundness is seriouse. Lets use Poco Lena as an example. This was an out standing mare. She had big times problems with her feed and legs. Human issues not hers. She put 2 foals on the ground. She was put down after the lasts one. Did having these foals shorten her life? Probably but at the end of the day she would have had to be put down at some point do to her feed and founder. So was the results of her being put down earlier b/c of being bred vs the extra few years she MAY have had worth it? I personally think so. Some others may not. These are all things you need to look at when considering something like this.
Ripper likes this.

-I'm so busy... I don't know if I found a rope or lost my horse.
-An Armed Man is a Citizen an unarmed man is a subject.
-Where ever free speech is stifled Tyranny will reign.
nrhareiner is offline  
post #19 of 20 Old 05-07-2012, 10:49 PM
Showing
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Higgins, TX. YeeHaw!!
Posts: 22,115
• Horses: 24
NRHA, it's such a coincidence that you should mention her. The stud that I was discussing in my post was a grandson of hers, by Doc O Lena.

Always remember that feeling of looking at a big, open country over the ears of a good horse, seeing a new trail unwind ahead of you, and that ever-spectacular view from the top of the ridge!!! Follow my training blog: http://robertsontraining.blogspot.com/
smrobs is offline  
post #20 of 20 Old 05-08-2012, 03:20 PM Thread Starter
Started
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,877
• Horses: 0
Thank you guys for the responces I never really looked at is as genetic vs. something like an accident. Im not saying that those mares can't breed I think people need to have good judgement whether or not the mare should be bred and if they can offer something to the breed itself. Of coarse with the right stud etc!
Kansas Spice Girl and Ripper like this.
Casey02 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Forwardness understood. Spyder Dressage 4 03-01-2010 10:12 AM
What I've never understood in Hunters... upsidedown Jumping 26 08-09-2009 02:28 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome