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post #1 of 93 Old 04-22-2011, 12:01 PM Thread Starter
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i want to follow my dreams. should i breed her?

so let me tell you about my mare. she is a thoroughbred with a pedigree of a champ. she is 10 and is a chesnut. registered under jockey club. she is fast and a good horse. ii havent raced her but have done some flat track on her in my club. i do barrels and poles and different events on her. i run a 18 sec barrel run and a 22 sec pole run. so shes not terrible.

her pedigree.
sire: simi dancer, grandsire: northern dancer, great grandsire: native dancer.
dam: lindas queen, grandsire: belindas boy, and further back: native dancer.

she has really good bloodlines. northern dancer and native dancer have won kentucky derby. native dancer has won 21 out of 22 races.northern dancer won 14 out of 18 races. and never finished wrst then third.
good horses.

MY DREAM: ever since i was little ive wanted to raise race horses. i finally got a thoroughbred with decent bloodlines. and ive been excited. i just hope i can get the money and fullfill my dreams. i got to be able to afford, trainer, jockey, and dues.

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Don't breed till you have money saved up to cover all expenses for the first couple of years and a clear financial plan afterwards. The racing business is HARD.
Your mares' lines are common. It's hard to get a TB without extensive Dancer lines.
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o ya here is her pedigree. just go to this website scroll down.
Free 5-Cross Thoroughbred Pedigrees from equineline.com - Thoroughbred Pedigree now with Free Interactive Nicking Dancer&dam_name=Linda's Queen B&foaling_year=2001&nicking_stats_indicator=Y


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Don't breed till you have money saved up to cover all expenses for the first couple of years and a clear financial plan afterwards. The racing business is HARD.
Your mares' lines are common. It's hard to get a TB without extensive Dancer lines.
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yes but i am an 18 girl this is my dream. i dont have any money and wont til im done with college. my horse will be dead by then. so im not sure where to start
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I agree with JustDressageIt. Its not worth the risk. Although your mare does have one or two good horses in it, they really aren't that fantastic. And even if they were, that doesn't mean your mare is good for breeding. For one, how is her conformation? Those pictures are really small.

Yes, she's got a fair barrel time. However, its not amazingly fast, and just because she can fly around some barrels doesn't mean she could run a mile in a minute and a half. Doesnt mean she'll be able to pass anything down to her child.

Thats a lot going against you. Not to mention that even to get a claimer out of her, you're going to need a good, well built, fast, PROVEN stud to make up for what she hasn't done on the track. That means at least $900 in stud fee, even for a so-so stud. Then you have pregnancy care. Thats atleast $500 of vet bills and such. After the foals birth- providing that it IS healthy, it will need its shots, a checkup every now and then, shodding, and expensive feed.

Then ofcourse, think about the fact that the foal can't even begin training until it is a two year old. Thats two years of just sitting around and eating all day. THEN you'd have to pay for training, and IF he runs well on the track and IF he will break from the starting gates and pass his tests, you'll need an exercise rider, a jockey, a stall at the racetrack, a trailer, the ability to go fom track to track, and most likely a groom. Not to mention even higher calorie food, extensive conditioning, etc. I have no clue what that would cost you, but I'm guessing AT LEAST $5000 by the end of things. With an amateur jockey and a non famous trainer.

This is assuming that the horse doesnt injure itself or have any setbacks in its first two years of life. Even after starting racing, theres always a chance of injury. a LARGE chance. You have to be prepared.

Its really not worth risking when you only have one mare. Unproven on the track.

I'm not telling you not to try to pursue your dreams to establish yourself in the racing business, just to be a bit more...realistic. =] go one step at a time. Think about becoming and exercise rider or something first- or if you're really confident- a jockey, Make sure that you can withstand the pressure, the hard work, the drugs, the rough people, and the all together high strung erra of the track. If you like it after a year or so, try purchasing a two or three year old at an auction so that you don't have to worry about breeding expenses, upkeep as a foal, etc. Look for one who has already raced a few times, so you have an idea of how it performs. Race that horse, and if you do well, think about adding another. If you're the type for the job, within a decade or so you could have a nice operation. However, its not realistic to breed your own and start from scratch.

I mean, its your horse. I cant tell you what to do...Just think about what I said. And good luck.

I work with a drop-dead gorgeous granddaughter of Secretariat, who also has- ofcourse, Bold Ruler, Native Dancer, Unbridled's Song, and a few other less well known but very strong performing horses- yet she couldn't run worth a dime. We now use her as an advanced lesson horse in dressage, and she excells. Racing though...it just wasn't something she could do, dispite her heritage.

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yes but i am an 18 girl this is my dream. i dont have any money and wont til im done with college. my horse will be dead by then. so im not sure where to start
If you started college now and had a good idea of your major, and just went for a Bachelor's, you're saying your horse would be dead around age 15?
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I was thinking that too...

Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.
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yes but i am an 18 girl this is my dream. i dont have any money and wont til im done with college. my horse will be dead by then. so im not sure where to start
And to you this is a good enough reason to make another horse?

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whoa guys calm down really. no matter how hurtful people may be this is what i want. and no college is not 5 years its moreto become something real in this world now and days. i want to be a vet for horses too and what i want is 14 years of college i already know what i have to do. racing is my number one thing. i just want to be a vet if the horses at the track get hurt i can be there. i just need the support and courage to get thro this. i race! and yes i know what its like so im not dumb founded on this. i race my mare. just not in the big stuff cause shes getting older. i know what that tracks like so does she. sadly i hate the fact she knows what the track is cause she is always wanting to run on it. ive been looking at a stud.... dunno if i should post it i dont want people talkin down on what im trying to decide
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So become a vet at a track and make acquaintances with some already established folks and work your way into the racing world, instead of throwing yourself headfirst into something you cannot afford and have no actual experience in. That would be the smarter thing to do. You would learn quite a bit working there.
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