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        04-22-2011, 02:29 PM
      #11
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    Originally Posted by Poseidon    
    So become a vet at a track and make acquaintances with some already established folks and work your way into the racing world, instead of throwing yourself headfirst into something you cannot afford and have no actual experience in. That would be the smarter thing to do. You would learn quite a bit working there.

    Yes I know and the thing is I just want to get things worked out before things get complicated. Im trying to plan ahead and look around for some studs and find some good people. This isnt a hop up and get right at it. I got a lot of work to do.
         
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        04-22-2011, 02:47 PM
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    I am totally confused (and maybe that is because you are acting very troll like). If you are going to be ever so busy with college for so very long what is the point of breeding your horse now anyway? Are you simply going to not go to college for the next three years until your homebred grows up to be raced?


    Giving "because I want to" for a reason is about as mature as... well... let's just say it is not very mature.
         
        04-22-2011, 02:48 PM
      #13
    Trained
    The top stud choices will be changing if you are planning way far in advance... You do realize what good racing TB stud fees are don't you?
         
        04-22-2011, 02:57 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Well, everyone has a dream. How much experience do you have with the racing industry in general? E.g. Riding, training or even just strapping?

    I would suggest several years working in that capacity will be of immense benefit and something you need to do before you really pursue this goal.

    I don't wish to comment on the breed vs. don't breed situtation other than to tell you this:

    Breeding a good horse is a crapshoot. Raising a successful racehorse is a MASSIVE crapshoot. So breeding AND raising a successful racehorse will be very trying for you. Good that you are sticking with the college route for the time being though and best of luck with your future studies. This dream may need some more time to come to fruition IMO.
         
        04-22-2011, 03:09 PM
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    Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
    I am totally confused (and maybe that is because you are acting very troll like). If you are going to be ever so busy with college for so very long what is the point of breeding your horse now anyway? Are you simply going to not go to college for the next three years until your homebred grows up to be raced?


    Giving "because I want to" for a reason is about as mature as... well... let's just say it is not very mature.

    Where im going to college is far from home. Im taking my mare with me. I will do all my practices on her. If I have a colt. The training will be done there with me. This is where I will be learning the race stuff and vet. Make more sense?
         
        04-22-2011, 03:11 PM
      #16
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    Originally Posted by sarahver    
    Well, everyone has a dream. How much experience do you have with the racing industry in general? E.g. Riding, training or even just strapping?

    I would suggest several years working in that capacity will be of immense benefit and something you need to do before you really pursue this goal.

    I don't wish to comment on the breed vs. don't breed situtation other than to tell you this:

    Breeding a good horse is a crapshoot. Raising a successful racehorse is a MASSIVE crapshoot. So breeding AND raising a successful racehorse will be very trying for you. Good that you are sticking with the college route for the time being though and best of luck with your future studies. This dream may need some more time to come to fruition IMO.


    I race myself on my mare. Just not in those big huge races cause she is to old. I have alot of experience especially from family friends an I live one mile from the race track in utah. I know what im doing I just got to sit down and get a plan book. I might just take her to college with me ill be doing all my practices on her. But if she has a colt his training will be done in college
         
        04-22-2011, 03:14 PM
      #17
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    Originally Posted by kaydeebug    
    i race myself on my mare. Just not in those big huge races cause she is to old. I have alot of experience especially from family friends an I live one mile from the race track in utah. I know what im doing I just got to sit down and get a plan book. I might just take her to college with me ill be doing all my practices on her. But if she has a colt his training will be done in college
    OK, I thought you were wanting to get into the mainstream racing industry but from your racing pic it looks like more of a country meet? Not bashing, it's just that you are clearly not in a racing pad or riding in a way that will get the best possible speed out of her.

    My question regarding your experience really was related to the mainstream racing industry.
         
        04-22-2011, 03:15 PM
      #18
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    Originally Posted by kaydeebug    
    where im going to college is far from home. Im taking my mare with me. I will do all my practices on her. If I have a colt. The training will be done there with me. This is where I will be learning the race stuff and vet. Make more sense?
    So you can afford board on two horses where you go to college?

    And do you think you will have time with your studies to do all that? I have yet to meet anyone who is studying to be a vet (even their first years of college) who has a spare minute to breath.
         
        04-22-2011, 03:18 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    I'm worried about how much money you are going to have to pay... who is paying for the schooling? And ALL of the stud, mare, foal care?
         
        04-22-2011, 03:18 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    Here's a link to her pedigree on Pedigree Query:

    http://www.pedigreequery.com/queen+dancer4

    Her dosage profile is 22, her DI is 4.50 and her CD is 1.00. That means that she has 4 1/2 times more speed in her pedigree than she does distance - that's why she is probably doing well at barrels for you

    The DP of 22 is *average* especially when you compare it to the DP of 56 of Fusaichi Pegasus.

    The fact she is unraced is a HUGE strike against her as well.

    Stud fees can be all over the map, but in order to match her up perfectly with a stallion that will ehance and compliment her, you need to do a "nick" with her and see what bloodlines she will nick best with

    When I bred my race mare for a "commerclal" foal the biggest stud fee I could afford was $5000.00 and I bred her to Alumni Hall. And believe me - a $5000.00 stud fee is WAY cheap in the race world! I was literally at the bottom of the barrel but that's all that I could afford to spend. We figured that this foal would get between $20,000 and $40,00 at this year's Yearling Sales in September 2011, but last fall, I sat down with pen and paper and mapped out what I had spent on this foal so far, the fact I kept them at home so my costs were minimal, agent fees, prep fees, auction house fees, commissions, etc, etc and at the end of the day, to get him to September 2011, I was going to have $20,000 - $25,000 into him and HOPE that I could come out alive with my hide intact in the end. Everyone else would get their money and make money off me and my colt - I was the one who appeared to be coming out on the losing end of the stick, even if he did sell for $25,000 or so. So - I cut my losses then and there and sold him

    So - go in with your eyes WIDE OPEN. Racing is a very expensive and very unforgiving game ... and there are more people spit out by the roadside with no money left, than you can count ...

    Hope this helps!
         

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