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Im Breeding My Dream Foal

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Horse Mammal Vertebrate Mane Stallion

Jessica Lange

Horse Mammal Vertebrate Mane Stallion

Jessicas Rosie Image
Horse Mammal Vertebrate Mane Mare

Roanies Cocoman
Horse Bridle Nose Stallion Mane

Coco Head
Horse Mare Pasture Stallion Mane

Obviously Diamond
Horse Mane Mare Stallion Snout

Obviously Diamond

The woman who taught me about horses had a barn fire in 1993 and lost several horses including at Stud Roanies CocoMan whom I adored.. Drop dead gorgeous pally stud. Ive always wanted her to have another pally stud or at least always have his bloodline on the ground at all times.

I bred him to one of her other mares Jessica Lange who had a daughter who lives in Louisana Jessicas Rosie Image who was bred to an Obvious Conclusion son who produced Obviously Diamond.

Im doing a broodmare lease on Obviously Diamond and we are breeding her to Elvis White Diamond.

This baby will have all the elements to be something incredible and dear to our hearts at is a decendant of two horses i adored as an 11/12 yr old. Im 31 now. LIFE IS GOOD
 
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Eeek. I have never understood the QH people, changing the conformation to horses such as this, purely for halter. I'm looking at that horse's body and imagine it weighs as much as many of our Gypsy Horses. Yet our Gypsies have huge bone and feet, to carry the weight through years of hard work and use. Quarter Horses were bred to be a sturdy, useful, working breed. I cannot imagine many of these halter horses, standing up to real work, over more than a couple of years.

Lizzie
 
#12 ·
While I'm not a particular fan of AQHA/APHA/APHC halter horses I have known a few who have been used for riding...Actually, I know of a AQHA world champion halter mare who also does roping and has gone to the Worlds to do so.

Like what others have said, Halter horses like the one you want to be bred to your mare have very small feet and have straight hocks. A lot of halter horses just do halter. However your mare doesn't seem to be very, very halter bred to me.

If you do end up using the babies to ride, I would just suggest letting their feet grow large as much as possible to support their massive body.

Never-the-less, I really like the looks of that stallion. He seems very pretty, do you have more pics of him?

(btw- Featheredfeet, loving the new avatar)
 
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I would be interested to know how many of these incredibly, heavily muscled QHs with small bone and tiny feet, do actually compete over long periods and stay sound. I've been attending cutting horse championships for many years and never seen one horse, built like the stallion pictured.

Re the avatar. Thanks TheAQHAGirl. That is Playboy, my daughter's former Gypsy Horse stallion. He has just been sold back to England, where he originally came from.
My daughter first spied him there as a youngster. Luckily, he has left some mighty good offspring here in the US. He is certainly a well travelled boy.

Lizzie
 
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I've known quite a few ropers that like ex halter horses and halter horse flunkies and use them for heading/heeling. They like the mass and stopping power. I also personally know a Mr. Yella Fella son that was a halter horse until he was 5 and then broke to ride, he currently is giving lessons and being trail ridden over tough terrain almost daily.
 
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While the stallion isn't my cup of tea, that is really just a personal preference. It's not what I like, but we all have our likes and dislikes.

The thing that bothers me is not the stud. Looking at the mares on the website, almost all of them are HYPP N/H and many are listed as in foal to Elvis. Yes, he's N/N, but I personally do not agree with breeding knowing the potential posed to the resulting foals. Again, this is just my personal opinion, but I would not want to support that type of breeder. If I have misread or am misinformed, please correct me.
 
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Haha omg! Sorry about that! :oops:

I understand trying to breed for the cream of the crop, but wouldn't it just make more sense to breed outstanding n/n mares? If I understand correctly, I think you only need one copy of the HYPP gene for the horse to be affected by it, unlike other genetic disorders like OLWS where you need two. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought I had read that somewhere.

However, that's neither here nor there as it's beyond your control. I hope everything goes well for you and that your mare catches easily. Has she had any foals before?
 
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You only need one copy for HYPP to be active. A horse may be asymptomatic for a long time and have an attack out of the blue. I, under any circumstances, would not want the heartache and danger of working with an NH or HH horse.

So am I correct in thinking, that if these halter horses are no long kept in their bulking-up training, they eventually go back to appearing what most of us would consider, 'normal'?

Lizzie
For the most part yes, but not always. More so with HYPP positive horses...
 
#26 ·
Well the AQHA halter horses I've seen are far away from ideal conformation...Lots of the ones I see are very post legged. I would say either the working would cause her to be over at the knee or just a conformational flaw that had nothing to do with her riding.
 
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I know exactly nothing about Quarter Horses, so maybe this question may seem dumb, but how the hell can you get THAT much muscle on a horse that can`t be ridden.??? Even Grand Prix showjumpers does not have that much muscles on them.
Sorry if this will offend some of you, but horses in these pictures - huge, unnatural muscles, tiny, tiny legs - looks scary.
 
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I know exactly nothing about Quarter Horses, so maybe this question may seem dumb, but how the hell can you get THAT much muscle on a horse that can`t be ridden.??? Even Grand Prix showjumpers does not have that much muscles on them.
Sorry if this will offend some of you, but horses in these pictures - huge, unnatural muscles, tiny, tiny legs - looks scary.
1. Genetics, number one. The difference between The Rock and Lance Armstrong.

2. Fitting. Fitting a halter horse builds different muscle groups than a riding horse, and often times when a halter horse is brought into riding they are slimmed down because they are not fit in the same way. Halter horses are fit only building the large muscle groups - particularly by long trotting in deep sand. Too much loping or agile activity actually decreases the size of large muscle groups. The idea of "bulking up" versus "getting fit". Like a body builder trains different muscle groups than a marathon runner.
 
#25 ·
Very excited for you that you will (hopefully) be getting your dream horse.

Do you have a backup plan for the horse if he/she ends up not being suitable as your riding mount? Would you be okay with just showing at halter if that's what the foal is suited for?

The reason I ask is that I seem to recall that you require a rather large mount (no shame in that, I need a larger horse myself), so I'm just wondering whether this pairing is going to give you the size and substance you need in a riding horse.

Also: I seem to recall that you're a beginner/intermediate... (I may be misremembering and I'm too lazy to check!), so hopefully you have a good trainer you're planning to work with.

Good luck!
 
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