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  • Great grand sons of impressive that are negative hypp
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    05-20-2010, 02:39 PM
  #21
Trained
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Originally Posted by kassierae    
the biggest thing I dislike about Impressive bred horses is that when they blow up, they BLOW UP. I know from experience with several of them. Its a well known fact that many Impressive bred horses have a screw loose, especially when crossed with certain lines. I will not even touch a directly bred offspring of Impressive. Every one I have met, and this is talking 20 plus, have been nuts. That's JMHO and experience though, and take it with a grain of salt if you wish.
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I've found the exact same thing with Zippo Pine Bar.
     
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    05-20-2010, 05:18 PM
  #22
Yearling
^I also agree with that, though I do know less horses with that line. Like I said, it is only MY experience that most, if not all, closely related horses have a screw loose. Impressive Rebel was a horse that my grandmother was training for a friend. He was a son of Impressive. He would work very nicely for a while then blow up out of no where. No pain, he was checked repeatedly by a vet and dentist. Out on one of their trail rides with a few people he had one of his explosions. Threw my grandmother, then proceeded to trample all over her while he was spinning in circles. She ended up in the hospital with broken ribs, a hoofprint on her forehead, two black eyes, and a few broken teeth. He did this unprovoked, on a loose rein on a relaxed trail ride. Impressive Tatonka, another son of Impressive, was the same way. He would freak for no reason. Both were HYPP N/N. My gelding is indirectly Impressive bred, he is about 5 or so generations back. He is generally quiet, but when he panics, he PANICS and there is almost no stopping him. The look in his eye changes and it's almost as if his brain disappears. He is also HYPP N/N. Again, just my experience. I will never deal with a direct son or daughter of Impressive again.
     
    05-20-2010, 05:55 PM
  #23
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Originally Posted by farmpony84    
I've heard some old-timers mention the screws loose and the explosions. My mare is a grandaughter of Impressive and she is a sneaky witch that can explode for no reason. She is also very smart, too smart. She's spook free and can be the kindest sweetest mare, she can tote children around with a gentle kindness... and then she can take me throw me to the ground like a wet potato sack.

My gelding is a great grandson of Impressive and he seems to be as my farrier puts it, "simple minded". Show him what you want, he'll do it. Don't expect him to know what you want because your last horse knew, show him what you want, he'll do it. If he gets mad, back up, take a break, start over. He's smart, he just likes to think things through.

I am a huge Impressive fan. I love Impressive horses....
Our mare Lady (a great-great-granddaughter of Impressive) doesn't have any screws loose, blow up, or anything like that, but she is mischievious, very curious, and loves to play with anything. She definitely has more personality than the average horse, and she's built like a tank.
     
    05-21-2010, 01:11 PM
  #24
Green Broke
My mare who has Impressive in her blood is nothing like the above mentioned "screws loose" and she never blows up. She is very VERY laid back, willing, honest, and SO sweet natured! (although SUCH an Alpha in the field!! Which is hilarious since she's only 14.1!)

But Impressive was from awhile back, and so many things got crossed in the meantime (my mare is only 9), so who knows what she gets her personality traits from? Maybe the Coosa in her line is making her the calm type! I heard that Coosa horses are pretty laid back and sweet natured
     
    05-21-2010, 01:26 PM
  #25
Started
My mom bought a Coosa bred app and she was very sweet, very laid back. Little girls climbed on her in the pasture before she even saw a saddle. She just kept grazing like they weren't even there.

She also had the worst luck. She had an impacted tooth. We fixed that. She sand colicked (sp) we had a 90 lb impaction removed from her gut. She fractured her humerus. We had her on stallrest, when someone hit a wire supporting our 180 ft radio tower, sending it through the roof. In the panic, she bumped that shoulder jsut the wrong way. Took her back to the vet, and they said there was a slight chance she could be saved with surgery, BUT if it worked, she would be a chronic pain patient. That was too much for a 3yo, so we chose to put her down. But I would for sure love to have another just like her!!!!
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    05-21-2010, 01:29 PM
  #26
Green Broke
Poor thing!! My mare seems to have bad luck as well!! She kept getting all these strange masses on her that they had to biopsy and they could never pinpoint what was causing them. Finally about $2k later, and allergy tests, etc. we found out she is allergic to Molasses, Soybeans, Johnson grass, Clover, gnat bites, and some more I forget about!!!

We switched her to oats with a vitamin/mineral supplement and she's now on a series of hypersensitivity shots to try to get her body to stop reacting to the other allergens that can't be avoided Poor thing! But she is SUCH a champ through it all! I had to learn how to give the injections and I swear I stuck her 5 times the first time I tried and even made her bleed and she just stood there patiently!! I couldn't have asked for a better mare
     
    05-21-2010, 01:55 PM
  #27
Weanling
>>>> But Impressive was from awhile back, and so many things got crossed in the meantime (my mare is only 9), so who knows what she gets her personality traits from?

I totally agree. I get a kick out of people calling a horse "Impressive bred" and blaming every bad trait on Impressive, when the pedigree has just one single line to Impressive and he himself is 5 generations back... and even worse is when the horse has 4 closer occurances of some other horse in their pedigree, who would have contributed 4x more genetic material to the supposedly "Impressive bred" horse than Impressive could have-- but since there is something negative, it must come from Impressive.

Now THIS pedigree could IMO be called "Impressive-bred"-

This Kid Is Serious Quarter Horse

And the mare is sweet, sensible... and N/N.

     
    05-21-2010, 03:19 PM
  #28
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Originally Posted by Eastowest    
>>>> But Impressive was from awhile back, and so many things got crossed in the meantime (my mare is only 9), so who knows what she gets her personality traits from?

I totally agree. I get a kick out of people calling a horse "Impressive bred" and blaming every bad trait on Impressive, when the pedigree has just one single line to Impressive and he himself is 5 generations back... and even worse is when the horse has 4 closer occurances of some other horse in their pedigree, who would have contributed 4x more genetic material to the supposedly "Impressive bred" horse than Impressive could have-- but since there is something negative, it must come from Impressive.

Now THIS pedigree could IMO be called "Impressive-bred"-

This Kid Is Serious Quarter Horse

And the mare is sweet, sensible... and N/N.
Then mine can be called Impressive bred also! LOL... I love them both, even the witchy mare... (To be honost, I think she is witchy because she was trained to hard and to quickly... but I'm not sure since I have not owned her since day one).

Shesa Top Vantage Quarter Horse

And

Just a Top Vantage Quarter Horse
     
    05-21-2010, 04:06 PM
  #29
Weanling
>>>> Then mine can be called Impressive bred also! LOL... I love them both, even the witchy mare... (To be honost, I think she is witchy because she was trained to hard and to quickly... but I'm not sure since I have not owned her since day one).

The gelding-- he has multiple lines to Impressive, and has Impressive as an ancestor both top and bottom..... the mare? Impressive is "closer" on her pedigree-- but he is her paternal grandsire, and that's all. IMO she is just as much Toedoe Play bred (Her other grandsire) as she is Impressive bred....
     
    05-21-2010, 04:29 PM
  #30
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Is Toedoe Play a good horse?
     

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