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post #1 of 18 Old 08-02-2008, 04:55 PM Thread Starter
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Injured Mare = Broodmare?

Some folks I see breed mares that can't do X, Y or Z (jump, barrel race) anymore. I don't get it. If the mare has a back or leg injury, how is it ethical to ask her to carry a 100 or so pound foal? Is it just me, or does that seem cruel?
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post #2 of 18 Old 08-02-2008, 07:51 PM
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Depending on the injury, I agree.


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It really depends. If the injury would cause discomfort for a mare to carry a foal, then yes, breeding her would be unethical. As would turning her into a broodmare (no matter how ewe-necked, sickle-hocked, hip-less, coarse, and fugly she may be) with the only reason being that she's unsound to ride and therefore is of no use to the owners would be unethical as well.

But if the mare is of excellent quality and the injury isn't genetic (impossible to be inhereted) and wouldn't create any extra unnecessary pain or stress on said mare, then I think that's perfectly fine.
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post #4 of 18 Old 08-03-2008, 04:52 PM
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I'm against breeding EVEN IF the mare is healthy

What blows me away is what people pay to breed to get a foal, not even something that may not even be what they want either. They just do it with hope.

If you know where to look it's always possible to get what it is you want, or to buy that jewel that you can turn into what you want.
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post #5 of 18 Old 08-03-2008, 11:57 PM
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I'm against breeding EVEN IF the mare is healthy
Hmmm, well if nobody bred, eventually there wouldn't be any more horses.
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^Their defense would be "use what we have". My response "Stop breeding junk!" Set goals, do your research, breed papered horses, and don't breed twelve in the hope for one "good one".

Now what are your thoughts on THIS scenario....

Suppose a healthy, well-bred pregnant mare carrying a potential superstar(carefully bred, and chosen on both sire and dam's side, and so forth) injured herself severely a month or so before she was due to foal. By everything, you feel the mare should be put down, but you have put so much into getting that foal. What would you do, supposing the mare did not abort? Would you put the mare down then and lose both? Let the mare live with her injury and treat her as best you can until she foaled, and then decide the best course of action, considering her recovery over the last month and how much farther you think she could progress?

That is a tough one no?
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I'd call my vet and do as he says. If he says the mare is in a great deal of pain and there's no way to make her comfortable, I'd put her down. Period.
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So you would lose the foal too? Suppose the vet said you were going to lose mare anyway, but there is a good chance to save the foal if you kept her alive for just a few more weeks? Is the life of the foal not worth it?
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I have a mare that has been injured that I plan to breed. She is mechanically lame, she is in no pain, she's completely healed but she's lost mobility in one of her legs which means she's stiff and sometimes limps depending on the stiffness. My vet said she is perfectly rideable (she isnt' show quality anymore). My vet also said that she's perfectly fine for breeding. She has excellent bloodlines, great conformation and I have never sold a horse. Which means, the baby would be mine. I'd keep it. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with me picking the stud I want for my baby and having it out of a mare I own and love?

I have a baby out of her right now that is in training that I plan to keep forever.

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^Their defense would be "use what we have". My response "Stop breeding junk!" Set goals, do your research, breed papered horses, and don't breed twelve in the hope for one "good one".

Now what are your thoughts on THIS scenario....

Suppose a healthy, well-bred pregnant mare carrying a potential superstar(carefully bred, and chosen on both sire and dam's side, and so forth) injured herself severely a month or so before she was due to foal. By everything, you feel the mare should be put down, but you have put so much into getting that foal. What would you do, supposing the mare did not abort? Would you put the mare down then and lose both? Let the mare live with her injury and treat her as best you can until she foaled, and then decide the best course of action, considering her recovery over the last month and how much farther you think she could progress?

That is a tough one no?
People keep women who have gone into coma alive all the time in order to complete the incubation of the baby they are carrying.

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