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        12-21-2007, 05:33 AM
      #21
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
    and really - different mums??????? **** they look alike that is amazing!!!!!!!!
    i think theres a bunch of confusion on my part here lol the paint foal showed earlier in the thread is to a different mum than the little bay foal pictured at the end :)
         
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        12-21-2007, 11:02 AM
      #22
    Foal
    In looking at this lovely black stallion, I think he has wonderful feet and legs and unless your mare has any problems, they should cross well. We had an anglo morgan foal and she was gorgeous, their are alot of similarities in the breeds, of course there is a lot of Arabian in the Morgan lines. Cross breds are very vigerous and it seems that most often the good traits of each come through. I think they call this Hybrid vigor. We have many crosses, mostly Moran-Arabian, but one cannot go wrong with Arabian blood. Contrary to popular belief, they are easy to work with, especilly if they have grown up with you. Handling and teaching the basics, building that bond when they are young, is so important. Arabian are very intellegent and I think you will find a great cross with your mare. She looks lovely int he picture. I bet you are so excited. It is a sense of great accomplishment when that foal is on the ground. Then the real fun begins!

    Most foals with tendon problems out grow it soon after birth. I know of a foal who was born wish almost deformed legs because he was so big in his mother, it took nearly six months for him to walk properly. That was an extreme case. You should see him now. A beautiful palimino. One would never know what his owner went through with him. She consulted vets on line at the time and they all advised her to let nature take it's course. I had a little filly last year from an older arab mare that actully toed out. Her mother toed in. Now she is nearly perfect. Maturity brings changes. That is why I believe horses should get their proper growth before being ridden a great deal.
         
        12-23-2007, 06:43 PM
      #23
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by jazzyrider
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
    and really - different mums??????? **** they look alike that is amazing!!!!!!!!
    i think theres a bunch of confusion on my part here lol the paint foal showed earlier in the thread is to a different mum than the little bay foal pictured at the end :)
    OH that makes sense now!!!!! I was confused......... LOL
         
        12-23-2007, 08:14 PM
      #24
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    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jazzyrider
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
    and really - different mums??????? **** they look alike that is amazing!!!!!!!!
    i think theres a bunch of confusion on my part here lol the paint foal showed earlier in the thread is to a different mum than the little bay foal pictured at the end :)
    OH that makes sense now!!!!! I was confused......... LOL
    so was I lol :P
         
        12-25-2007, 12:08 PM
      #25
    Foal
    I personally don't care for him. He dosent have very good confromation and seems like a back yard pet.
         
        12-25-2007, 05:25 PM
      #26
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
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    Originally Posted by luvs2ride79
    He is very pretty, and temperment is very important. I have an Anglo Arabian gelding and really like him.

    One question though. That first foal you posted of his, out of a tb mom, is spotted. How do you get a spotted foam from a tb dam and a solid black Arabian stallion? Perhaps that foal is out of the paint in his herd, not a tb? I have seem painted TBs, but they are quite rare and usually Sabino, not Sabino & Tobiano, as that foal appears to be.
    the mare in that field is a frame overo, the foal is quite clearly a tobiano so it is not possible for the foal to be out of that mare (overo plus black arab CAN NOT produce a tobiano it is genetically impossible)

    Sabino is also not a term to be thrown around as they have a genetic test to determine wether a horse carries the OLW gene. You are only permitted to call a horse Sabino if they have tested negative to OLWS (overo lethal white syndrome for those of you not familiar with the term ) Overos and Sabinos can look very similar so it is often hard to tell - although I do understand what you are trying to get across that tb's typically express the Sabino type of markings
    Yes I know, I meant to type "a" paint mare in his herd. Sabino is also a VERY common white pattern, found in every breed and I would dare say, most horses. It's just usually expressed in it's minimal foam. The paint mare in the photos apears to be Frame and Sabino, sabino accounting for the jagged edges of the white markings and the white under the face (though that could also be due to Splash Overo...).

    Splash Overo is also thought to be found in some TBs, though not thoroughly substantiated as there is no test for it.
         
        12-25-2007, 05:28 PM
      #27
    Foal


    Hmm, looking at this foal again, I'm am more perplexed as to the pattern. The face says Tobiano, but the legs and body say Sabino & Splash. Very interesting! I would love to see the photo of his dam, and his genetic test results . I wish there was a test for Splash, and a more effective test for Sabino.
         
        12-25-2007, 06:06 PM
      #28
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    Originally Posted by DashsCrackerjack
    I personally don't care for him. He dosent have very good confromation and seems like a back yard pet.
    he has very nice conformation but I guess you are allowed your opinion. Back yard pet?? Personally im not fussed whether the stallion I choose runs free on a property or is stabled at some rich snobby barn. Who cares where he lives? Its the temperament etc that makes a nice stallion, not where he lives :roll: not every breeder has the money for a swanky stud but this doesnt mean its a bad thing

    EDIT - I wasnt going to go into any huge explanations but I changed my mind :) the lady who owns the stallion was at a nice establishment but her husband kicked her and the horses out in favour of his younger lover/new girlfriend or whatever. She had to find herself somewhere where she cold keep her 16 horses and so she moved into the property she is now at.

    None of this bothers me and I know he isnt in great condition as far as muscle tone goes at the moment but to add to his owners woes, she broke her arm when she was moving and he hasnt been ridden much the last couple of months. This doesnt bother me either. His temperament is what it all comes down to for me (only with conformation which personally I think is fine).

    Even if he was a "backyard pet" does this make him any less of a suitor than any other nice stallion??
         
        12-25-2007, 09:26 PM
      #29
    Foal
    Thats just personally my opinion. I hope you can respect that. But if temperment is the main thing your looking for in a stud, then he sounds great and I wish you and your mare luck.
         
        12-25-2007, 10:20 PM
      #30
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    Originally Posted by DashsCrackerjack
    Thats just personally my opinion. I hope you can respect that. But if temperment is the main thing your looking for in a stud, then he sounds great and I wish you and your mare luck.
    of course I can respect that and that's why I said that's your opinion. As I've mentioned in the past, im not looking for a drop dead gorgeous show horse. Im just looking for a nice, friendly foal and yeah, temperament is at the top of my most important list
         

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