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  • Rr imprimis milly dee

 
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    06-08-2009, 03:21 PM
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Foal
Lightbulb just wondering...

My mare RR Imprimis Milly Dee or as we call her Sweet Cheecks is a triple registered mare (Paint, Pinto, and half quater horse) and I was wondering if I bred her to a reg. Paint/half quater horse will the baby also be able to be triple registered? Its all very confusing to me. I would love some help on this if anyone knows about it. Also, if anyone knows of any studs that are paint/half quater horse and would like to posts some pics id love that too :) thanks!



(she's the one in the green halter)
     
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    06-08-2009, 04:46 PM
  #2
Weanling
I don't know but I love her! She looks like she layed in white paint!
     
    06-08-2009, 05:37 PM
  #3
Yearling
Gorgess girl! I love her markings. Overall she looks well built as well.

I suppose you would be able to triple register the foal...I'm not to sure, I'll leave that answer to the experienced breeders
     
    06-08-2009, 07:08 PM
  #4
Foal
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Originally Posted by stacieandtheboys    
I don't know but I love her! She looks like she layed in white paint!
haha thank you and surprisingly she stays very clean for all that white.
     
    06-08-2009, 07:08 PM
  #5
Foal
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Originally Posted by twogeldings    
Gorgess girl! I love her markings. Overall she looks well built as well.

I suppose you would be able to triple register the foal...I'm not to sure, I'll leave that answer to the experienced breeders

Yea she's a big healthy girl lol
     
    06-08-2009, 07:22 PM
  #6
Weanling
Really nice horse! I don't know if ud be able to triple register the foal tho or not.
     
    06-08-2009, 07:53 PM
  #7
Weanling
I think the stud would have to be registered in everything the mare is for the foal to be triple registered. Except to be registered as a pinto inwhich case the foal just has to born with paint markings.

Beautifull mare though!!
     
    06-08-2009, 08:45 PM
  #8
Trained
At least for the Paint 'part', since your mare is a registered Paint, the sire must be a registered Paint, QH, or TB for the foal to be registerable as a Paint.
     
    06-11-2009, 11:52 AM
  #9
Weanling
As Painthorsemares said, a foal form your registered Paint mare would need a registered Quarter Horse, registered Thoroughbred, or registered Paint sire to be eligible for the Paint horse registry.

Pinto does not automatically register anything with color anymore-- mares and geldings can be hardshipped in if they meet specific color and other criteria, but intact males have to come from registered parents. Since your mare is registered Pinto, any of the pairings mentioned above would result in a foal eligible for Pinto registration as well. Pinto also allows crosses to other breeds besides paint, QH, and TB.

I don't know anything about the 1/2 QH registry. If it is like the 1/2 Arab registry, which always requires one parent to be purebred Arab, then only breeding to a registered QH would get you a 1/2 QH foal. But I am not sure if the 1/2 QH registry works like that-- perhaps they allow registration of the offspring of two registered 1/2 QHs to be registered 1/2 QH.

The Paint and Pinto registries are large active registries. They are the registries I would focus on. I don't think the1/2 QH registry offers much in the way of shows, activities, or benefits--could be wrong, but I have never heard of 1/2 QH programs nor even actually seen a set of their papers.

I would also test your mare for Lethal White Overo (LWO) before breeding. Many Paints and Pintos marked like your mare have this gene. It is not harmful when there is only one gene present but when you breed horses together that each have one gene, you run the risk of a foal with two LWO genes (it can inherit one from each parent), and that is a 100% lethal condition. If your mare is LWO positive, you could avoid the chance of a LWO affected (lethal) foal by choosing only LWO negative stallions to breed her to.
     
    06-11-2009, 11:26 PM
  #10
Foal
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Originally Posted by Eastowest    
As Painthorsemares said, a foal form your registered Paint mare would need a registered Quarter Horse, registered Thoroughbred, or registered Paint sire to be eligible for the Paint horse registry.

Pinto does not automatically register anything with color anymore-- mares and geldings can be hardshipped in if they meet specific color and other criteria, but intact males have to come from registered parents. Since your mare is registered Pinto, any of the pairings mentioned above would result in a foal eligible for Pinto registration as well. Pinto also allows crosses to other breeds besides paint, QH, and TB.

I don't know anything about the 1/2 QH registry. If it is like the 1/2 Arab registry, which always requires one parent to be purebred Arab, then only breeding to a registered QH would get you a 1/2 QH foal. But I am not sure if the 1/2 QH registry works like that-- perhaps they allow registration of the offspring of two registered 1/2 QHs to be registered 1/2 QH.

The Paint and Pinto registries are large active registries. They are the registries I would focus on. I don't think the1/2 QH registry offers much in the way of shows, activities, or benefits--could be wrong, but I have never heard of 1/2 QH programs nor even actually seen a set of their papers.

I would also test your mare for Lethal White Overo (LWO) before breeding. Many Paints and Pintos marked like your mare have this gene. It is not harmful when there is only one gene present but when you breed horses together that each have one gene, you run the risk of a foal with two LWO genes (it can inherit one from each parent), and that is a 100% lethal condition. If your mare is LWO positive, you could avoid the chance of a LWO affected (lethal) foal by choosing only LWO negative stallions to breed her to.

Wow i've never even heard of LWO. Thank you very much that was really helpful.
     

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