Knowing When To Geld

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    02-24-2010, 03:00 AM
Question Knowing When To Geld

I have an intact APHA colt. Nice breeding, GREAT personality, unique color, well built. I've been wrestling with myself lately though with the fateful question - To geld, or not to gelding?

We've had sincere interest in him already - from the pictures where he looks like absolute rubbish when we first got him - and people seem to love him. So obviously, there's already a market for him, and he looks ten times better now.

However, if gelded, he could go on to be a kick butt show horse. Though he could do that and be intact all the same. But the economy sucks, and quite honestly I'm not the type to say "Hand me $500, and I'll let him breed anything that neighs", there would definitely be an approval process - and I have no idea how well that would go around these here parts.

There are just as many pros and cons on each side. What I have decided to do, is let him show his yearling year in longe line and halter, keeping him intact, and seeing how many people are really interested in him at the bigger shows like Paint-O-Rama, etc. If not? He'll be gelded. No harm, no foul, right? If he starts going looney tunes, he'll be cut. That's that.

So I just have a question for everyone out there who might be in a similar situation as myself, or any current stallion owners - What ultimately makes you decide to geld (or not to geld) a colt?
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    02-24-2010, 08:52 AM
I've never had a colt to geld, but I would look at him in the most unbiased light I possibly could and say "is he awesome enough that his genes deserved to be passed on?". I would also have my trainer and experienced horse friends check him out to get their opinions.

Do you have pictures of him?
    02-24-2010, 09:16 AM
Green Broke
Is it the colt in your barn? He's beautiful! What a story on him! I can't believe he didn't have a big old scar on him after that wound. Pretty boy : )
    02-24-2010, 10:29 AM
Green Broke
I would seek an unbiased (no family, no friends, no one who "knows" the horse) opinion on his breeding potential and quality. Someone who doesn't love his personality, know his story or feel obligated to you will have the most critical eye.
    02-24-2010, 11:21 AM
Now, I don't breed, but I know breeders and they generally get the colt inspected up the wazoo by all different types of registries to see if there's a bite.
If the colt is showing promise, they leave him until about 3-4 and see how he is performing under saddle and take him to some licensing events. If he gets accepted they keep him a stud and if he doesn't then he gets gelded.

So, if your colt can make it into the APHA, etc.. registry AND studbook, then you're in business.
    02-24-2010, 11:51 AM
I have a four year old that is intact. I have been riding him and he is great and that is one of the reasons I am going to geld him this spring. I want to ride him more and the more I breed him the harder he will be to handle around other horses. There is also not nearly as much money in standing a stud as there was 5 years ago. He is going to enjoy being a gelding much more than being a stallion and my kids and I can enjoy him a little easier.
    02-24-2010, 01:14 PM
It does take a lot of good training to keep a stud levelheaded after you begin breeding him. That being said, I can't comment on whether or not I think you should geld him because I don't know the horse, his breeding, his confo, or how he moves. I think you have a pretty good game plan but I would keep him intact until he is at least 2, maybe 3. Sometimes it is hard to get interest in a yearling because so many of them look so wonky all the time. Give him some time, get him started under saddle, and wait to see if his temperment will stay the same after all that testosterone hits his system. If he keeps his mellow attitude and does well in some of the under-saddle classes, then consider leaving him a stud.
    02-24-2010, 01:25 PM
This is all my opinion.

From never even looking at the horse I would say geld him. Do you know how many really nice paint studs there are out in the world? (alot). There is alot that goes into breeding and quite frankly with todays economy and horse market no one should be breeding. Unless there will never be another really fricken amazing paint stud like him again (which I doubt, no offense) just geld him. But then again this is your horse, so do with it what you please. I just know around where I live the QH, paint, and ap market is down in the dumps. And the sad thing is I know people who are still breeding when they can't sell the other 20 horses they bred to begin with.
    02-24-2010, 01:51 PM
Up until that last post I think there was some insightful things said.
I would most definitely get allot of opinions and keep him intact till he starts performing. If you don't think he's quite the quality its easy to just snip snip. You can always geld but you can't make him a stud again! :)
    02-24-2010, 01:55 PM
You can always geld but you can't make him a stud again! :)
That is my thought exactly.

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