Lease agreement for broodmares - do you use one?

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        07-31-2014, 09:06 AM
    Lease agreement for broodmares - do you use one?

    Just a quick question, if any of you use leased broodmares, or you lease your broodmares out, do you get a signed agreement?
    I found someone thru FB wanting mares to breed to her stallion, and we sent a few messages back and forth, seemed all keen UNTIL I mentioned signing a lease agreement and checking out her facilities.
    She very quickly backed off saying I was the one who seemed to not want to part with my mare (not the case at all) and that she didn't care because she had enough mares anyway.
    Now I'm not sure if it's the signed agreement or the checking her place out, but surely these would both be standard practice? Made me feel like I was the one being difficult!?
    Opinions? Especially as this is someone I don't personally know, only got onto thru Facebook.

    Below are the messages I sent that caused her to suddenly back off:
    "Sure, happy for you to come see her. What time were you thinking? As you can hopefully understand, I'd be a little hesitant to let you take her straight away on lease, as I we'd like to come check your facilities and have a chat (and then a signed contract) about both your and our expectations of how she will be looked after and what happens in the case of illness/injury/death etc.
    I don't know if you've leased a broodmare before (or other horses), or if you've got your own lease agreement, but if not, I've downloaded a draft agreement we could use and alter to suit ourselves as needed. I'm happy to bring this along to give us a basis for our discussion of what we need to agree on.
    I am not trying to be difficult, but I want both of us to be protected so if something goes wrong we all know where we stand."
    "Was just thinking, if we (as in you, me and hubby) chat and discuss your facilities and everything else, if we are all happy to go forward, to save you another trip, we could organise for hubby and I to bring Skittles to you and check your place out at same time. And in the meantime we could email draft lease agreements back and forth til we're all happy and print off and sign when we hand Skittles over. Just something to think about if you are concerned about having to make the trip twice with a float."
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        07-31-2014, 09:18 AM
    Oh, and the reason I mention making the trip twice with a float, is she is coming down my way to pick up another mare, and wanted to get mine at the same time without having previously met us.
        07-31-2014, 10:14 AM
    I not only do a contract, but require insurance and charge a good size fee. Mine are Broodies for a reason they have a proven record.
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        07-31-2014, 07:46 PM
    Yeah, i'm beginning to think we've had a near miss of a potential disaster. I suspect this woman hasn't actually bred before, and may not know what she is doing. She sent me a snippy message saying that things can go wrong that is no one's fault and she doesn't want to be held accountable.
    Well, I understand that, and that is why I wanted a signed agreement stating in what situations she would be to blame, and when she would not.
    And how do I know she wouldn't sell my horse? It's happened to people before. It also would cover her if we decided that we were taking our mare back once she was in foal and kept the foal. Stupid woman. Good luck to whoever goes into it with her without an agreement!!
        08-02-2014, 02:11 PM
    I wouldn't trust her at all. If anything you should require she carry insurance if something were to happen, absolutely demand to have a lease agreement and get references!
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