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  • Double dilute stallion with grey gene
  • Defects when breeding a grey horse with a dilute horse

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    10-22-2011, 10:08 AM
  #41
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
You still get the dilute even if there is grey, and it isn't always 50% with the grey. You have to know if the grey is heterozygous or homozygous. If the grey is homozygous no mater what the foal will be grey.
Correctamundo...the grey and dilute genes are totally separate genes and are not mutually exclusive, so you can have both. Off hand, I can't recall having come across a grey dilute, but the likely reason is who would want to cross a grey with a dilute to begin with, although I'm sure it has been done - I just haven't seen one...
     
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    10-22-2011, 10:21 AM
  #42
Trained
You've seen one face. A single dilute that is lol Was standing at stud, buckskin going grey I beleive.

I can't recall an double dilute greys off the top of my head though. I am sure they are out there though.
     
    10-22-2011, 08:16 PM
  #43
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
You still get the dilute even if there is grey, and it isn't always 50% with the grey. You have to know if the grey is heterozygous or homozygous. If the grey is homozygous no mater what the foal will be grey.
So with out testing the grey horse its safe to say 50/50 I can't tell you how many ad's I see guaranteeing a creme foal when bred to anything As the owner of a perlino I would never give such a guarantee if I were breeding to a gray mare because when said baby comes out they will be pretty ticked off when the baby turns gray.
     
    10-22-2011, 08:19 PM
  #44
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Originally Posted by Faceman    
Correctamundo...the grey and dilute genes are totally separate genes and are not mutually exclusive, so you can have both. Off hand, I can't recall having come across a grey dilute, but the likely reason is who would want to cross a grey with a dilute to begin with, although I'm sure it has been done - I just haven't seen one...
I think there was someone on this forum awhile back that did that and were upset when he baby turned gray because they were told it would be nothing but a creme
     
    10-22-2011, 08:28 PM
  #45
Green Broke
I guess this was a completely pointless thread..... but I learned a lot about colour!!!
     
    10-22-2011, 08:52 PM
  #46
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Originally Posted by LuvMyPerlinoQH    
So with out testing the grey horse its safe to say 50/50 I can't tell you how many ad's I see guaranteeing a creme foal when bred to anything As the owner of a perlino I would never give such a guarantee if I were breeding to a gray mare because when said baby comes out they will be pretty ticked off when the baby turns gray.
The think is if you have a double dilute you can still offer the cream guarantee. They still get the cream regardless and will still be there under the grey. If you are worried about it just make sure the mare owners know that if bred to a grey there is a chance the foal will grey, but still have the cream gene. Your not changing the genetics by breeding to a grey. Like I said, the cream is still there.
     
    10-23-2011, 01:40 AM
  #47
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
The think is if you have a double dilute you can still offer the cream guarantee. They still get the cream regardless and will still be there under the grey. If you are worried about it just make sure the mare owners know that if bred to a grey there is a chance the foal will grey, but still have the cream gene. Your not changing the genetics by breeding to a grey. Like I said, the cream is still there.
Which is why many ads for studs say, "Whichever gene guaranteed! (Except gray mares)"
     
    10-23-2011, 07:09 AM
  #48
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Originally Posted by Poseidon    
Which is why many ads for studs say, "Whichever gene guaranteed! (Except gray mares)"

You'd be surprised how many don't have a clue regarding this I see so many ...its almost scaryalmost every double dilute I see advertised at stud or for sale has that all color all the time guarantee.
     
    10-23-2011, 09:47 AM
  #49
Trained
Which in a way is still the truth. You still get the cream. *shrugs*
     

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