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post #1 of 19 Old 04-19-2010, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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Hey everyone.

I've been contemplating for a while now, whether to breed or not, but I've finally decided this is the way to go. I'm in love with Family Partners Welsh Ponies, and two of their studs. I would like a full critique on both boys, and which would be better for the outcome foal's job. I would like to breed a horse that can hunt, jump up to 2'9" (at least), dressage, and mild western pleasure. I'm a little girl (not in age... In size).. and 12.2 fairly often. I would like the foal to come out *at least* 13.1, so what size should a mare be? I am looking to rent-a-uterus (hahahaha so funny to say), & just pay all the costs until the foal is weaned. How much do you all think (guesstamate!) this will cost.

Secondly, I would be using AI, since these guys are on the other side of the country. How much does insemination cost? Price ranges would be great. How much does it cost to keep semen cooled/frozen? I would be ordering early 2011, and most-likely breeding August 2011, for a July 2012 foal date.

Both stallions come from the same bloodlines, both are imported from Scotland. One is a national champion, the other is a rising champion. I am leaning towards Marmaduke (coming two-year-old) - although he is not yet proven, he could become more successful than Mardi Gras, and I would pay less in stud fee's. If he does not prove himself as I hope, he does have spectacular conformation, and an awe-striking pedigree.

So, let me stop my rambling and get on the the boys.

Mardi Gras






Please READ his page.

Next is Marmaduke, in these pictures he is a yearling.

Marmaduke




Sorry for the lack-of-pictures of Marmaduke. PLEASE rip them apart. I have yet to find a mare, but I do have an idea. Thanks..
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post #2 of 19 Old 04-19-2010, 08:50 PM
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I'm no good with critiques. They are both beautiful. But Mardi Gras is stunning.
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post #3 of 19 Old 04-19-2010, 08:51 PM
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I just wanted to say that I love them both. I actually considered Mardi Gras for a while until I decided not to breed.

However, have you checked the website for foals for sale? The last time I checked, they had a lot, and that seems like it would be cheaper/easier than finding a mare to breed. Plus, you would know exactly what you were getting.
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I like Mardi Gras.
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post #5 of 19 Old 04-19-2010, 09:46 PM
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Maybe you could choose the stud you like more of the two and a mare and buy the foal before it's born? Just an idea but good luck and I hope you have a happy outcome!

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I have seen Mardi Gras in the local Sporthorse Directory that comes out every month. his progeny are just as stunning as he is.

I personally would breed to a larger mare. Maybe a TB or something of that sort. TB/Welshes are really great little horses.

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I agree with eventerdrew. TB/Welsh's are great!

I would choose Mardi Gras over Marmaduke, definitely. Mardi Gras is actually not too far from me. Lovely stallion. I also agree with the idea of just looking at their website for foal sales, or contacting them to buy an unborn foal. Or a mare already in foal. AI is not cheap and sometimes requires multiple breeding on different cycles, which means lots of vet bills and shipping semen costs (which isn't cheap, either.)

I breed all my own mares by AI. I do all the ultrasounding, too. Depends on your vet, but per farm visit to ultrasound to check when the mare is ready for semen, a vet bill would run $100-150. And ultrasounds need to be done multiple times per cycle for the greatest chances of the pregnancy taking.

Then, shipping fresh, cooled semen across country will run anywhere from $400-500. We have to have semen shipped to us multiple times per week (for different mares), and believe me it definitely adds up.

Anyway, good luck in whatever you end up deciding to do! I really love Mardi Gras!

(p.s. your light blue text is really hard to read.)

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Wedderlie Mardi Gras is one of my absolute favorite stallions, I vote for him over the other, hands down.

(my other fave welsh stallion is Rocko's Gold. I have a filly of his who is gorgeous)
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I'm no good with critiques. They are both beautiful. But Mardi Gras is stunning.
Thanks, I think so too :).

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I just wanted to say that I love them both. I actually considered Mardi Gras for a while until I decided not to breed.

However, have you checked the website for foals for sale? The last time I checked, they had a lot, and that seems like it would be cheaper/easier than finding a mare to breed. Plus, you would know exactly what you were getting.
I have thought of buying a filly, but I would like a foal to work with from birth. If I cannot reach that goal (lol, yep my horsey goal is to have a foal by a Wedderlie horse), I will probably buy one. There was a colt for sale not too far away by Mardi, for like $3,500.

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I like Mardi Gras.

Thanks for your input :].

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Maybe you could choose the stud you like more of the two and a mare and buy the foal before it's born? Just an idea but good luck and I hope you have a happy outcome!
I really like this idea, I have thought of it as a two-for-one deal, . The problem is when they have a mare I like for sale... They have a broodmare with under-saddle training now, but I don't have the space/money :(.

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I have seen Mardi Gras in the local Sporthorse Directory that comes out every month. his progeny are just as stunning as he is.

I personally would breed to a larger mare. Maybe a TB or something of that sort. TB/Welshes are really great little horses.

I would, really I would. I ride a pony that's Welsh/TB. He's the sweetest thing . Although, I would like to show in WPACA sanction shows..


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I agree with eventerdrew. TB/Welsh's are great!

I would choose Mardi Gras over Marmaduke, definitely. Mardi Gras is actually not too far from me. Lovely stallion. I also agree with the idea of just looking at their website for foal sales, or contacting them to buy an unborn foal. Or a mare already in foal. AI is not cheap and sometimes requires multiple breeding on different cycles, which means lots of vet bills and shipping semen costs (which isn't cheap, either.)

I breed all my own mares by AI. I do all the ultrasounding, too. Depends on your vet, but per farm visit to ultrasound to check when the mare is ready for semen, a vet bill would run $100-150. And ultrasounds need to be done multiple times per cycle for the greatest chances of the pregnancy taking.

Then, shipping fresh, cooled semen across country will run anywhere from $400-500. We have to have semen shipped to us multiple times per week (for different mares), and believe me it definitely adds up.

Anyway, good luck in whatever you end up deciding to do! I really love Mardi Gras!

(p.s. your light blue text is really hard to read.)
Sorry for the text color, force of habit :(. Thank you for this, it was seriously helpful (no sarcasm).

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Wedderlie Mardi Gras is one of my absolute favorite stallions, I vote for him over the other, hands down.

(my other fave welsh stallion is Rocko's Gold. I have a filly of his who is gorgeous)

LOL Chey, me too! I wanted to get a filly from Mardi, to later breed to Rocko XD!
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I may be wrong but I believe that foals from welsh/TB registered parents can be registered and showed in sanctioned welsh shows. I would have to double check to be 100% but I'm pretty sure it's true. I also think you should buy a foal in-utero to a mare bred to him. But that's just because I know how expensive it is to breed especially with shipped semen and having a vet do your AI and ultrasounding. Either way I agree that you should go with Mardi I have wanted to breed my TB mare to him for a while but time/money has so far prevented that wonderful union. *sigh* Someday she will have a cute welsh pony baby! and just for giggles...this is my mare. Don't you think she would make cute pony babies? (sorry for hijacking your thread but you're more than welcome to rent this mare's uterus next year haha).
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