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    03-06-2013, 05:51 PM
Okay so the stallion tested positive for the red factor and he has chestnuts on the ground one out of a black mother (I think that is what I was told). So possibly a chestnut? I personally would like to have a bay but he has none on the ground so it makes me wonder what I'm going to get.
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    03-06-2013, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lives2hope    
Okay so the stallion tested positive for the red factor and he has chestnuts on the ground one out of a black mother (I think that is what I was told). So possibly a chestnut? I personally would like to have a bay but he has none on the ground so it makes me wonder what I'm going to get.
Correct, if he is Ee then you have a 75% chance of a black based foal, 25% chance for a red foal
    03-06-2013, 06:23 PM
Well fingers crossed no on the chestnut. Our chestnut mare just passed and I think that would be a bit hard on all of us.
    03-07-2013, 03:57 PM
Backyard tails of a fatty under the impression she is near death from starvation....

Magic has always been a bit of a porker. She can actually kill herself if left out to pasture too long it doesn't take anything for her to gain weight she truly looks at a bag of grain and gains 50lbs. Now that she is 'with child' she has gone above and beyond in her food obsession.

Last night:
Escape: attempts 4 success 3
Manipulating food out of Daddy: attempts 5 success 4
Stealing food from the chickens and ducks: Attempts 3 success 3
Driving mommy crazy: Attempts 154 success 154
Getting the lock off the grain bucket: Attempts 3 success 1
Stealing the neighbor horses hay: Attempts 3 success 1
Letting the neighbor horses out to play: Attempts 1 success 0
Terrifying chickens in the middle of the night by putting head in coop: Attempts 1 success 1
Opening sliding glass door: Attempts 1 success 1
Waking up every dog, cat, horse, chicken, duck and human in the neighborhood: Attempts 3 Success 3

Mommies finally had enough punishment, dressage in a bareback pad in the middle of yard so everyone can watch my fat humiliation....4am exhausted after a 1 1/2 hour embarrassment of a work out...head in dirt mommy points at my pen and I slowly waddle back in...

Mommy may have won this round but the battle isn't finished...we will see what 1am brings tomorrow.

This is her it wasn't me look.
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    03-07-2013, 05:44 PM
Forgot to mention my horse is a bit of escape artist yesterday she taught her self how to pop the gate of the hinges yes, pick it up and pop off the hinges my husband will be welding the top of the hinges so she can't do that anymore. But she always comes up with a new way to get out. Often letting her friends out in the process. At our last barn she actually had double master locks on her stall door and her paddock gate.
    03-07-2013, 07:20 PM
Just our of curiosity, were either the mare or stallion tested for OLWS?
    03-07-2013, 09:03 PM
My mare has not been I'm unsure about the stallion. However when I asked about this a while back with my vet he said not to worry about it unless I'm breeding to a framed overo stud.

Just in case I looked up again after reading your question (keep my panic factor under control) and the color patterns and genetic sights I found also although said it would be good to test to know it should not be necessary to test for unless breeding to an overo. (chances being very slim of both carrying it and having a lethal white foal).
    03-07-2013, 09:16 PM
It is a risk breeding to ANY horse of any breed that is known to have frame. Frame is very, very adept at hiding. There are quite a few tobianos that carry frame.

This mare has no other white than the star and is a frame overo carrier (Spice who belongs to Kansas Spice Girl on here)-
    03-07-2013, 09:30 PM
Just a couple of more horses to show that it's not limited to "overo" colored horses.

This guy is homozygous for both tobiano and black and is also a OLWS/Frame carrier.

This little guy has no white on him at all but has tested positive as an OLWS/Frame carrier -

This mare is also a OLWS/Frame carrier -
    03-07-2013, 09:42 PM
I am aware that horses that are not overo can carry the gene. I know that my horse does not have overo pattern in her back ground for the 7 generations I can trace, not sure if that makes a difference or not.

The stallion however has had some rather extensive genetic testing done. So I can ask the owner if she knows. I also know that it is not very common to have this issue if you are breeding two horses and neither of them have the overo pattern. So I may have this testing done later on Magic if we decide to have another foal with a paint stallion I don't believe at this time it is necessary. Both horse have to be carriers in order to have a lethal white foal. I just read that even some overo horses are not carriers. It is a good test to have done, and if our vet had recommended it we would have had it done.

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