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post #1 of 19 Old 09-24-2010, 04:17 AM Thread Starter
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Is this mare breeding quality?

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I would love to hear yalls opinions on whether or not this 13 yr old APHA mare would be of breeding quality, based on conformation alone.
She has had one colt that is currently running a very nice set of 1-d/2-d barrels, from an accidental breeding by a no-name stud.
I have an oppurtunity to breed her to a son of Dash For Perks, but before I make a decision, I would love to hear some honest opinions from others!

The last picture is her colt.
Thanks in advance!
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post #2 of 19 Old 09-24-2010, 04:48 AM Thread Starter
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Name: Lil' Bit
Age: 13
Breed: breeding stock paint
Height: 15.1

Discipline: barrel racing, trails

Personality: calm and quiet

Other: She has had one colt that is currently running a very nice set of 1-d/2-d barrels, from an accidental breeding by a no-name stud.

Accomplishments: ^^^, has won multible checks/prizes in barrel racing, including 1st in the 3-D at Martha Josey's clinic with a beginner barrel racer, won a check at ACTHA trail horse competition which was a first experience for both horse and rider
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post #3 of 19 Old 09-24-2010, 07:24 AM
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No, her conformation is not breeding quality.

Even when you consider her accomplishments along with her conformation, I wouldn't breed her.
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post #4 of 19 Old 09-24-2010, 08:36 AM
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Can you post her pedigree?
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post #5 of 19 Old 09-24-2010, 08:37 AM
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Agreed with maura.

Her hindquarters and hind legs are a major weakness in her overall conformation - her hocks look rather posty, and her pasterns are a bit upright. Her back looks rather long, and something looks off about how her back ties into her hindquarters. This factors into her ability to track up and collect, as well as the overall "structural strength" of her back. In the pic of her colt, it does look like the long back did get passed on, but its hard for me to tell with the tack on. One more thing that I see is that her neck ties in rather low.

I do like her bright eye and kind expression - she looks like a real sweetie! She just has some confo flaws that, while they may not hinder her now, are not going to contribute a colt/filly with excellent conformation.

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post #6 of 19 Old 09-24-2010, 09:06 AM
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I was posting in a hurry this morning, so I really appreciate Scout Rider essentially giving the same analysis of her conformation that I would have. What looks "off" about where her back ties into her hindquarter is that her point of croup is too far back; this contributes to the back appearing long and the quarter short. I will add that she also appears signifigantly cow-hocked, along with post-legged. Her best feature is her fabulous sloping shoulder and her forearm angles; that may be what produces her movement and speed.

So I have no doubt that this mare has had a nice performance career, or that her colt is doing well. However, I am one of those people who believes that to be breeding quality, a horse needs to have a very good performance career and exemplary conformation. Your mare only has half the equation.
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post #7 of 19 Old 09-24-2010, 12:33 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks so much guys! I have always had kind of the same thoughts but wanted to get my opinion backed up by others.
Glad that you pointed some of her flaws out, I'm still trying to catch an eye for critiquing conformation and couldn't exactly put my finger on it
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post #8 of 19 Old 09-24-2010, 07:54 PM
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its a shame that her croup is too far back and her legs are wonky because she seems like a lovely mare but i agree that she isnt really breeding quality. with e bunch more weight and muscle tone her conformational flaws would be less noticeable however still there.

just quickly, are these recents pics of her? i dont mean to sound rude but she looks like she could do with a boost in feed or a re-assessment of what she is eating. shes lacking weight and muscle. as i said i dont wanna sound rude but had to ask :)

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post #9 of 19 Old 09-24-2010, 08:01 PM
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Not at all and jazzy is right - if those are recent pictures, she needs to be reassessed about her feed. I think the mare got lucky on that colt.

Unless it weighs a ton... it's just a horse. Draft horse motto.
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post #10 of 19 Old 09-24-2010, 08:34 PM
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I agree with everyone that she isn't breeding quality, but OP, thaaaaank you so much for taking it so gracefully! You should be an example for every person who posts this type of thread then throws a tantrum.

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