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post #1 of 24 Old 03-18-2009, 04:34 PM Thread Starter
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Mare due soon. No bags. No milk. Ugh!

Hey, im new to this forum, I was hoping to get some imput on my mare. Jade is a perfectly healthy 9 year old APHA mare that was bred last season in April and in June. (this is going to be a long confusing story..) After she was bred in April (around the 6th, covered 5 times) we brought her home and had her ultra sounded about a month later. The vet found a small black "hydro"-something that was not there before, but said there was no baby. We brought Jade back to the stud in June (around the end of the month). I calculated her heat cycle wrong and she ended up spending 27 days at the farm. She was only covered twice because she wasn't as "interested". We brought her back home and she went back into heat. So from then on, I basically gave up. Gas prices and boarding costs to bring her back weren't worth it and I have a LFG on it so I figured I'd bring her back next season. I never got her re ultra sounded. About 8 months later, my farrier (who has his own breeding farm) asked when she was due (not knowing we had her bred). We had her re ultra sounded and THERES A BABY! It actually kicked my vet while she was prepping her for a rectal ultra sound. I brought her back a few months later hoping to get a due date. We ultra sounded her again (3rd time) and my vet guessed the baby to be about 9 or 10 months old. To sum this part of the story up. Jade took the first time we brought her to the stud and my vet "Missed" it giving me a HUGE board fee because of bringing her back to the stud. I called a different vet out to confirm the due date and he said yes, this baby's coming in March. Well, she's due any time and she still has no bags (whatsoever) or milk. She is UTD on all her pre-foaling vaccinations. NO she's not on Fescue hay. And Im pretty sure that after 3 ultra sounds and 2 palpations that my due date is correct. Whats up!? I hate waiting! (Foal kit is ready and survelience cameras are up!)
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post #2 of 24 Old 03-18-2009, 04:42 PM
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JsJ204, welcome to the forum.

I believe that your mare should not lactating until birth but your vet should be able to confirm that.

Good luck with your soon to be new foal!

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My vet did tell me not to worry and that she'd probrably bag up the day before... but I was just curious how often that really happens. I have colostorum available if need be.
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Is she a first time mother or has she had other foals before? First time mothers will often bag up just before they foal and some have even been known to not have any milk till a few minutes after they foal! Mares can be so tricky and some do not give many signs at all of soon foaling. Believe me, I know how frustrating it is!

Is her belly getting a V like shape and her tailhead and hindquarters getting soft? Some mares will act less or more friendly than usual or try to separate themselves from other horses.

Good luck with her and keep us updated!
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post #5 of 24 Old 03-19-2009, 12:20 AM
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Good luck. If this is her first baby she may possibly not show any signs. (thats what we think my mare is doing) so just keep an eye her. And thanks for the help on my post earlier :)

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post #6 of 24 Old 03-19-2009, 05:03 AM
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Also keep in mind that horses don't have a due date. They have an estimated date, but they go on their own terms!

Last year, two of my three babies were due 6 weeks apart, but were born one night apart! The first one born went 368 days, the other was 32something!
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This is her second foal. The first foal she had was when she was just two years old (so about 6 or 7 years ago). IT WAS NOT MY CHOICE TO BREED HER THIS YOUNG. I bought her from Minnesota as a 4 year old. Anywhoo, yes. She is the "v" shape. Squishy behind her last rib and infront of her hip. I've seen mares much much bigger than her, but my vet reported a perfectly normal sized foal. I guess she's just carrying it up higher. Checked her today, no bags still.. Her attitude is still pretty much the same. She was laying down a lot more last night, but still no obvious signs that she's going to pop soon... I hate this waiting game!

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I knew one mare that hardly looked pregnant at all with her foals. She carried them very high, never waxed, or even got much milk before foaling, but she always had large, healthy foals. Every mare is so different.

Yes, it can be very frustrating! I always say that mares are the most frustrating animals on the planet come foaling season! They seem to love prolonging the wait as long as possible!!
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post #9 of 24 Old 03-19-2009, 12:26 PM Thread Starter
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I agree! I got this from a friend and it made me laugh! So true--

The mare's secret code of honor is as old as horses
themselves and is ultimately the species best kept
secret. No mare shall ever produce a foal before it's
time. (It's time being determined by the following

1. No foal shall be born until total chaos has been
reached by all involved. Your house must be a wreck,
your family hungry and desperate for clean clothes,
and your social life nonexistent.

2. Midwives must reach the babbling fool status before
you foal out. Bloodshot eyes, tangled hair and the
inability to form a sentence mean you're getting

3. For every bell, beeper, camera or whistle they
attach to you, foaling must be delayed by at least one
day for each item.

4. Vet check, add a day, internal add three. If you
hear the words, "She's nowhere near ready. You'll be
fine while I'm away for the weekend," Wait 12 to 16
hours and pop that baby out!

5. Owner stress must be at an all time high! If you
are in the care of someone else, ten to fifteen phone
calls a day is a sign you're getting close. When you
hear the words "I can't take it anymore!" wait three
days and produce a foal.

6. You must keep this waiting game interesting. False
alarms are necessary! Little teasers such as looking
at your stomach, pushing your food around in the
bucket and then walking away from it are always good
for a rise. Be creative and find new things to do to
keep the adrenaline pumping in those who wait.

7. The honor of all horses is now in your hands. Use
this time to avenge all of your stable mates. Think
about your friend who had to wear that silly costume
in front of those people. Hang onto that baby for
another day. OH, they made him do tricks too! Three
more days seems fair. Late feedings, the dreaded diet,
bad haircuts, those awful wormings can also be avenged
at this time.

8. If you have fulfilled all of the above and are
still not sure when to have this foal, listen to the
weather forecast on the radio that has been so
generously provided by those who wait. Severe storm
warning is what you're waiting for. In the heart of
the storm jump into action! The power could go out and
you could have the last laugh. You have a good chance
of those who wait missing the whole thing while
searching for a flashlight that works!

9. Make the most of your interrupted nights. Beg for
food each time Someone comes into the stable to check
you. Your stable mates will love you as the extra
goodies fall their way too.

10. Remember, this code of honor was designed to
remind man of how Truly special horses are. Do your
best to reward those who wait with a Beautiful filly
to carry on the mare code of honor for the next
generation of those who wait!

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post #10 of 24 Old 03-19-2009, 12:35 PM
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Oh, that is so cute! And that sure is just how mare act - they seem to take great delight in keeping us waiting and then pop out their foal when we aren't there!
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