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    03-20-2013, 12:28 PM
  #21
Weanling
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Originally Posted by jaydee    
You should cope just fine if you have experience calving cows
Foals get immunity from their mothers that keeps them going for a while - just have something for the umbilical cord - really important that its kept free of infection potentials. Mostly an iodine solution is used but some vets prefer a Chlorhexidine solution like Nolvasan now
db mentioned checking the afterbirth - really important as retention will cause serious infections, septicaemia, metritis and can cause laminitis. If you don't find all the afterbirth because vermin have been at it - this is why I prefer mares to foal in a smallish well confined area - keep a close eye for the mare seeming off colour and her temperature going up. We had one mare that had retention problems every time she foaled and had to have oxytocin shots and be flushed out.
The UK poster (Reckyroo?) made a good point on the flooring - you get bad weather where you are so concrete or rubber matting laid on a good layer of stone would be good. A TB mare we had was very antsy with us when she had her first foal too - it was called 'Dave' for half a day and then when we were able to get hold of her & safely get near it we discovered it was a filly and renamed Daisy!!!
I told everyone we'd had a filly - until my sons saw hisbits n pieces - oops! We collected the afterbirth and had it laid out ready for the vet to check - she vaccinated the foal with flu and tetanus within hours of him being born and gave him an enema as he was straining to poo
- and also checked Fox to see if her heart/gut etc were ok - they were - and gave us pointers to look out for - either getting a temperature - discharge etc - and to then call them out asap. Our vet would normally take blood as well at 24 hours to check the immunitiy of the foal, but as he was making all the targets (and Fox hadn't dripped a drop of milk prior to foaling so hadn't lost a drop of colostrum) she decided not to.
My vet was happy to give me all the advice I needed.
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    03-20-2013, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Reckyroo    
I told everyone we'd had a filly - until my sons saw hisbits n pieces - oops! We collected the afterbirth and had it laid out ready for the vet to check - she vaccinated the foal with flu and tetanus within hours of him being born and gave him an enema as he was straining to poo
- and also checked Fox to see if her heart/gut etc were ok - they were - and gave us pointers to look out for - either getting a temperature - discharge etc - and to then call them out asap. Our vet would normally take blood as well at 24 hours to check the immunitiy of the foal, but as he was making all the targets (and Fox hadn't dripped a drop of milk prior to foaling so hadn't lost a drop of colostrum) she decided not to.
My vet was happy to give me all the advice I needed.
Its good to have a vet you feel confident with isnt it. I remember when we moved in the UK the last time that it took us several vets before we found one we felt happy with
Your weather sounds dire - I have friends over there who's horses have barely set hoof on their fields for months now - and that is out of the horses choice in some cases as they leave the gates open from the stable yard areas. Hope you have a better summer!!!
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    03-20-2013, 01:09 PM
  #23
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Originally Posted by jaydee    
Its good to have a vet you feel confident with isnt it. I remember when we moved in the UK the last time that it took us several vets before we found one we felt happy with
Your weather sounds dire - I have friends over there who's horses have barely set hoof on their fields for months now - and that is out of the horses choice in some cases as they leave the gates open from the stable yard areas. Hope you have a better summer!!!
Our vet is a specialist breeding/AI vet - and probably one of the most reasonale in price too compared with others around.
And the weather - well - it's been shocking! Wet Wet Wet! Prior to Fox foaling, we had about 3 nice weeks which she was able to go out - but since last year, we'd leave the stable door open when mucking out and she'd be right at the back - hiding lol in case we made her go in the field.
Good weather for ducks!
     
    03-20-2013, 05:45 PM
  #24
Yearling
Thank you for all the advice! Turns out I probably won't be able to go up on Easter weekend (work stuff), but I will get one of siblings on taking care of her, and maybe can get my brother or my Dad to take her to the vet for her check up. The farrier is going to be there sometime the end of this month and I'll see if he can do her hooves. I don't know how she is on them for being a four year old and practically unhandled before going to the rescue. I'll see if the farrier can also check her teeth.

None of our horses have their vaccinations, as we try and be as organic as possible. I will ask the vet about it and go from there.

The shed, I will be talking to my brother about, I doubt we would put a cement floor in it, but I'll ask him about it. I don't have a lot of loose change floating around (horse owner, ya know. :-D ), and my parents don't have any money to speak of (long story, that comes down to my dad being unreliable). I will see what the finished product would cost and go from there. It's lots of fun trying to figure out what to do when you live 3 1/2 hours away, and then are going to be even farther away for the summer and into the fall.

The hopeful date of the horse getting delivered will be the 24th. I will keep ya'll updated for sure!

And Reckyroo and Jaydee, that is funny about getting the gender mixed up. We've done that a lot with calves. Also giving them a name alteration, such as Byran into Byranette, Aaron into Erin. LOL! Always fun!
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    03-20-2013, 05:45 PM
  #25
Weanling
Also, I watched loads of videos on foaling - and also on red bag deliveries.
Just in case I needed the info.
Plus, having friends who live on a farm, if a cow needs help whilst calving, don't you pull the legs straight out? From what I saw on the foaling vids (and thankfully didn't need to know ny of it in the end), if a foal needs help, you pull downwards rather than outwards (correct me if i'm wrong anyone). Xx
     
    03-20-2013, 05:54 PM
  #26
Yearling
With calves you pull down as well. I've helped many a calf into the world. Some come breach (lots of fun, that one), my heifer that I have now, came with her head back. Her mom was a tiny heifer (bred too young, was bought as a bred heifer), so I was up to my armpit trying to get the head around, ended up having to loop a rope around the jaw and pull on the head and legs together. I worked for about half an hour in that cow. My arm was so numb! It was sore for a couple days after as well. LOL! I love farming! Really I do! Then you see the newborn, live, calf on the ground. BEST feeling EVER!
     
    03-20-2013, 05:58 PM
  #27
Weanling
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Originally Posted by GallopingGuitarist    
With calves you pull down as well. I've helped many a calf into the world. Some come breach (lots of fun, that one), my heifer that I have now, came with her head back. Her mom was a tiny heifer (bred too young, was bought as a bred heifer), so I was up to my armpit trying to get the head around, ended up having to loop a rope around the jaw and pull on the head and legs together. I worked for about half an hour in that cow. My arm was so numb! It was sore for a couple days after as well. LOL! I love farming! Really I do! Then you see the newborn, live, calf on the ground. BEST feeling EVER!
If that's the case, then it looks like I could calf a cow as well as foal a horse now - such is the power of youtube haha
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    03-20-2013, 05:58 PM
  #28
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Reckyroo    
Also, I watched loads of videos on foaling - and also on red bag deliveries.
Just in case I needed the info.
Plus, having friends who live on a farm, if a cow needs help whilst calving, don't you pull the legs straight out? From what I saw on the foaling vids (and thankfully didn't need to know ny of it in the end), if a foal needs help, you pull downwards rather than outwards (correct me if i'm wrong anyone). Xx

I don't know about cattle,but with horses you do want to pull down and back,not straight out. Thankfully,I've never had to pull a foal yet,although I've seen it done a couple times.I've had lots of practice with pulling lambs though,so at least I have some knowledge on how to do it if I ever have to in the future.. :)
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    03-20-2013, 06:03 PM
  #29
Yearling
I learned to calf a cow by experience. My parents were gone to Alaska and us kids were watching the farm, my brother's cow was calving, breach. We grabbed the pulling ropes (soft cotton) and pulled that calf! I was around 13 at the time. We had pulled couple calves before that so I knew the basics, just the first time I had ever done it without my dad there.
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