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post #21 of 183 Old 02-23-2013, 12:29 AM
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Have you checked to see if there are any nurse mares in your area? Poor little guy, he looks so adorable.
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post #22 of 183 Old 02-23-2013, 05:34 AM
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Oh that is so heart breaking. I've only had hands on experience with this sort of thing once. Really awesome brood mare refused a baby, baby's kidneys starting failing about a week and a half later for no known reason. Mom knew there was something wrong with the baby. Sounds to me like your colt is fine, just something wrong with your mare? Geesh, that is so sad.
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post #23 of 183 Old 02-23-2013, 09:44 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you so much for the kind words and advice thus far!

Just an update:

The little guy got bottle fed this morning; we still have him on an enriched formula since he wasn't getting anything from his mom. We have a vet coming in later today to take a look both him and his mother, but as I've said, it seems like he's in immaculate physical shape. It's his psychological state about which I'm worried :(


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good luck ! he is a cutie, the poor guy. what breed are him and momma ?
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Restrain the mare with hobbles or stocks or even easier, put her in the stall and position her where her udder is even with the door, open the door (only works with sliders) just a foot to allow the foal access to the mare. Mare can't kick or bite at him. Mildly sedate the mare or feed her grain while the colt is there to distract her. If the mare is dripping milk, she will want the relief from the foal nursing. I would be hand milking the mare a few times a day to keep her in production and use her milk to feed the foal.
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Restrain the mare with hobbles or stocks or even easier, put her in the stall and position her where her udder is even with the door, open the door (only works with sliders) just a foot to allow the foal access to the mare. Mare can't kick or bite at him. Mildly sedate the mare or feed her grain while the colt is there to distract her. If the mare is dripping milk, she will want the relief from the foal nursing. I would be hand milking the mare a few times a day to keep her in production and use her milk to feed the foal.
I think my parents have been using a combination of enriched formula and natural milk from mom. But restraining her is a good idea, not exactly ideal, but at this point, we're kinda desperate to get things as on track for the baby as possible.


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At this point I would be hand raising the foal as if he was an orphan. Let the mare dry up and bottle and bucket feed him. Forcing her at this point is only going to end up making things worse. More so since she has already tried to kill him a few times. Get an older mare or gelding for a companion for him and put him in with them, one that is a proven "baby sitter" that he can bond to and learn how to be a horse from.

You're putting too many human emotions on the the pair of them.

Was an IgG ever done on him? He may already be immuno-compromised. what "enriched" forumla are you giving him? Was the colostrum formula actual colostrum from a colostrum bank or the mass produced/sanitized stuff that is basically worthless?
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Can I ask - what is twitching?
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Twitching is a 'necessary evil' of the horse world when it comes to dangerous tasks, and involves using a device or your hand to twist a flap of the horse's skin to control it, or to put pressure on/twist it's upper lip. It can be very painful in the wrong hands, but is safe in experienced hands and relatively harmless. It sometimes needs to be done in situations like this or when the vet/needles are involved.
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At this point I would be hand raising the foal as if he was an orphan. Let the mare dry up and bottle and bucket feed him. Forcing her at this point is only going to end up making things worse. More so since she has already tried to kill him a few times. Get an older mare or gelding for a companion for him and put him in with them, one that is a proven "baby sitter" that he can bond to and learn how to be a horse from.

You're putting too many human emotions on the the pair of them.

Was an IgG ever done on him? He may already be immuno-compromised. what "enriched" forumla are you giving him? Was the colostrum formula actual colostrum from a colostrum bank or the mass produced/sanitized stuff that is basically worthless?
It's a mixture, but as far as I know, it's something like 80-90% colostrum from a colostrum bank (my parents have an immediate contact in case of a situation like this.)
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