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  • If you breed a cow bred stallion with a saddle mare what kind of horse whould you get

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    12-06-2012, 06:21 PM
  #11
Yearling
What about a quarter horse cross to your arab mare? I'm hooked on these dudes now
     
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    12-06-2012, 06:45 PM
  #12
Foal
I didn't try and talk you out of breeding. Just tried to explain why I don't feel HE would be a good match for them.

And an injury is a soundness issue. After just 8 starts to have an injury like that? If you want a good, sound trail horse look at good, sound horses for stallion prospects.

I breed horses myself. I don't think carefully planned breedings are a bad idea at all. I just don't necessarily see this as a carefully planned breeding. It seems more like the stallion is available and you are hoping someone will agree that he will produce what you want with one of your mares. He may, but you won't know that yet with his lack of progeny history. You also will not necessarily be able to say the foal will be marketable, unless the stallion owner really starts doing something with the stallion AND with the offspring, eventually. And I don't mean racing, necessarily.

You say you want a well built, energetic horse for low level endurance and use in the mountains. Look at a horse that is known for producing that. Personally, I'd look at arabian stallions! Hardy, surefooted, smart, and typically very, very durable.
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    12-06-2012, 06:50 PM
  #13
Yearling
I think you are exactly right. I also hate posting these kind of posts, for that reason.

I think I would go for the arabian, as you can end up with a horse you can register.

Also, I bought a yearling filly quarter horse, but I would have rather bred one foal so I could raise it for my own use, right from go, but I had no oppertunity so I ended up buying, which I am fine with, because I got her young enough, but I still would have prefered to breed!

I am thinking of maybe breeding my filly to a quarter horse stud in the future, when she starts getting older, so I can carry on her breeding lines, but I am still debating that myself.
     
    12-07-2012, 10:58 AM
  #14
Green Broke
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What about a quarter horse cross to your arab mare?
I'm not a huge QH fan(Dodges rotten fruit). I had some terrible experiences with bad ones when I was younger. If I knew a really nice stallion with a reasonable stud fee I might concider it, But I think I would rather stick to thoroughbreds or arabs.

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And an injury is a soundness issue. After just 8 starts to have an injury like that?
Injured race horses don't have to be prone to injury or poorly conformed. They are started too young and run too hard, with periods of complete inactivity in between and high "octane" feed. My BO has a mare that broke her leg at 2. She was saved by her owner and went on to become my Bo's winning endurance horse. Yet if we had judged soundness based on a track injury she never would have got that chance.


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I just don't necessarily see this as a carefully planned breeding.
10 years of thought have gone into this. In that time frame this is the first time I have seriously concidered it. I would classify that as planning.

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It seems more like the stallion is available and you are hoping someone will agree that he will produce what you want with one of your mares.
this is the 4th stallion that has been 'available', and the only one I have seriously concidered.


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I'd look at arabian stallions! Hardy, surefooted, smart, and typically very, very durable.
this may sound strange, as my mare is arab, but I am very leary of breeding a pure arab. My last two arabs before pretzl were aweful, spooky divas that would kill me in the mountains. One of them spooked climbing a near vertical trail(that they had climbed before) because there was a rock on the trail. We slid back and almost flipped. Pretzl is nothing like that, and I love the forwardness of both her and the OTTB's the BO (and I) ride. I though an anglo would give me more toughness from the arab, height from the thoroughbred, and a athletic forward mount.
     
    12-07-2012, 03:28 PM
  #15
Weanling
Weren't you saying you planning on selling one of your horses cause you couldn't afford three? That's the first thing I remembered when I saw this thread and was kind of confused why you'd add one more into the mix.

Making a Tough Decision, Who to Keep, and Who to sell?

The reason I remembered is because I would really hate to get rid of the gorgeous Clydesdale lol
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    12-07-2012, 03:39 PM
  #16
Green Broke
It has nothing to do with affording, I don't have time to ride three presently. If I kept Romeo, pickles and pretzel, I would be keeping pretzel in endurance shape, starting pickles under saddle and starting Romeo driving/ under saddle, all at the same time. As Romeo is not right for long distance riding, I'm going to find him the perfect home( took a long time to come to that conclusion), work on pickles as a project and keep riding pretzel. If she is the one in foal( leaning more towards this option) I will put lots of miles on pickles as a 4 year old while pretzel is nursing her foal. I will sell pickles as a broke 5 year old, then have a new project(foal) and pretzel. When pretzel is ready to retire, the baby will be old enough to take her place as my endurance horse.

Not sure what this has to do with the original question...
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    12-07-2012, 06:34 PM
  #17
Yearling
I prefer the arab and I like the anglos Just my op but can't really tell anything from the stallion photo except he has a nice eye.
     
    12-07-2012, 06:56 PM
  #18
Foal
I am not great at conformation, but I would say go with your Arab. I am a big fan of Anglo-Arabs, plus the foal can then be registered as such.

I also wanted to say that you have put a lot of thought into this and I say go for it. I am breeding my paint mare in the spring and frankly, I don't want to start a thread about it or even post anything on FB because I know there is a good chance that people will bash me about it. I agree with you, one foal that you plan on keeping isn't going to hurt anything.

Either way, good luck and keep us updated! :) I have always admired your horses on the other forum...
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    12-11-2012, 10:44 PM
  #19
Yearling
If I had to pick two horses to cross breed I would pick the arab... at least then you'd have a mildly desirable anglo-arab than an appyxtb... just my two cents...
     
    12-11-2012, 11:02 PM
  #20
Green Broke
I'm not into breeding grade horses.
Thoroughbred is an approved outcross with the aphcc, meaning any foal of this cross, even solid, can be registered with the Appaloosa horse club of Canada.

The foal out of pickles would be registered Appaloosa, the foal out of pretzel would be registered Anglo Arab.
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