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    08-16-2010, 04:22 AM
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Yearling
Marketable foal?

We are planning on breeding our mare next year and I was trying to get a feel for what everyone's opinions on the potential marketability for the foal would be. Please do not respond to tell me to go out and buy a horse. We can afford to support the baby and the mare and are very fixed and secure in my families current income.

The mare JC registered, though she is unraced. She'd been shown 2'6" with her previous owner at all kinds of rated shows and when we bought her we showed her locally at 3' and 2'9" where she did very well, but she didn't seem to enjoy at all. Her favorite things to do are teach a beginner how to ride and trail riding. She is a big bodied liver chestnut, with nice conformation and very correct movement. Her build is closer to an appendix QH than a TB and her temperament is perfect, apart from a little girthyness. I would say her worst physical feature would be her shoulders, which are slightly upright, which would hopefully be bred out of her, with the right stallion.

A concern for me would be her size, at 15.2 1/2 hh she isn't an ideal height. We would either want to breed her height up a little or breed down to a large pony. Thought trying to breed down in height would be risky, since I know that by being a small large pony is could decrease the foals value by a lot.

That being said, we are looking into the possibility of breeding her to either a thinner bodied warmblood, another hunter-type TB, or a smaller medium/large small sized welsh pony. Since she is a TB, all of those options would allow the baby to be registered either as, respectively, a warmblood, a TB, or a half welsh. We are looking to breed a show hunter prospect and as a small adult, I would be able to ride both a pony or a horse comfortably.

Of course we have a lot more stallion research to do before we pick the right one, but in your opinion which one of the following crosses would likely be the most marketable?

Warmblood, welsh pony, or TB?
     
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    08-16-2010, 03:42 PM
  #2
Yearling
I would say:

Dressage foal = Warmblood sire
Hunter/Jumper/Eventing = TB sire
Of course, you could also get a great jumping-type foal from a Warmblood, but I generally associate those with Dressage :)

I personally would skip on the Welsh pony. My gelding Divo is a Welsh cross and stands 14hh, from a 16hh sire. You could risk getting a REALLY small colt.

I would also consider not just breeding the foal and promptly selling it, great prospect or not, especially if it's the mares first. If I was on the market for a hunter prospect, I would choose from a mare with previous offspring so I can see what kind of horse she produces, with what stallion.
'Prospects' tend to be a hard sale. Just because the foal could be a great jumper, he or she just as easily could not be. You would probably have a much better chance raising the foal, and at least starting it in training. That way people think "Oh look how great it's doing already, I can definitely see myself spending 20k and putting ribbons on my wall"
IF you want to sell it after it's born. If you want to keep the foal, then of course none of that really applies.


Your mare does sound lovely and well trained though. I really like the fact that she's actually BEEN SHOWN and TRAINED and not just "Hurr. I wanna purdy bby horseth" and that you KNOW what kind of foal you want and UNDERSTAND the mares conformation and movement. Obviously color isn't a huge factor here, which is also a super plus, because apparently your mind is on what the horse is going to be able to do...not if it's a slightly darker shade of chestnut, black, bay, or rainbow with purple poka dots.

I would look into both Warmblood and Thoroughbred stallions, my final pick would really rest on the kind of offspring they have produced, their show record, how they would compliment my mare, and of course, their lines.
     
    08-16-2010, 04:26 PM
  #3
Green Broke
Well, if you breed for a pony, if you sell your main prospective buyers will be children so you will want the foal to have a good, even temperment.
If you want more of a jumper sort of horse i'd breed with a warmblood, which will add more muscling & the right build & breeding for the sport.
If you breed to a TB, i'd choose one that was built more for a jumper than a racer, with a good temperment & confo. ;)
     
    08-16-2010, 04:30 PM
  #4
Yearling
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Originally Posted by twogeldings    
I would say:

Dressage foal = Warmblood sire
Hunter/Jumper/Eventing = TB sire
Of course, you could also get a great jumping-type foal from a Warmblood, but I generally associate those with Dressage :)

I personally would skip on the Welsh pony. My gelding Divo is a Welsh cross and stands 14hh, from a 16hh sire. You could risk getting a REALLY small colt.

I would also consider not just breeding the foal and promptly selling it, great prospect or not, especially if it's the mares first. If I was on the market for a hunter prospect, I would choose from a mare with previous offspring so I can see what kind of horse she produces, with what stallion.
'Prospects' tend to be a hard sale. Just because the foal could be a great jumper, he or she just as easily could not be. You would probably have a much better chance raising the foal, and at least starting it in training. That way people think "Oh look how great it's doing already, I can definitely see myself spending 20k and putting ribbons on my wall"
IF you want to sell it after it's born. If you want to keep the foal, then of course none of that really applies.


Your mare does sound lovely and well trained though. I really like the fact that she's actually BEEN SHOWN and TRAINED and not just "Hurr. I wanna purdy bby horseth" and that you KNOW what kind of foal you want and UNDERSTAND the mares conformation and movement. Obviously color isn't a huge factor here, which is also a super plus, because apparently your mind is on what the horse is going to be able to do...not if it's a slightly darker shade of chestnut, black, bay, or rainbow with purple poka dots.

I would look into both Warmblood and Thoroughbred stallions, my final pick would really rest on the kind of offspring they have produced, their show record, how they would compliment my mare, and of course, their lines.

Thank you. We actually aren't looking to sell the foal right away, I'm mostly asking for the future "in case". The prospect would be for me to show and train from the ground up (with the help of my trainer, who has experience with starting both hunter and jumpers) and then possibly sell/half-lease out later on. While the mare is trained up to first level dressage (never shown beyond training), I would not consider her a dressage horse, nor do I believe she would produce a nice dressage horse. Her manner way of moving are very hunter-like.

We are starting to research stallions with my trainer now and I think we were leaning towards a TB or a warmblood as well. We were both worried about getting a foal that was simply too small. Along with the fact that if a medium were produced, as an adult, I wouldn't be able to show him/her. We'd love to find one with beautiful shoulder/neck.

Oh, here are some pictures:



And yes, she's wide


     

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