Originally Posted by corinowalk
Indy, How did you find out that your gelding was proud cut? Did they just look or was there a blood test. I know that he was gelded pretty late and whether or not he was bred before he was gelded is unknown. This whole situation has me pretty paranoid about his breeder who said only that he was gelded late hoping to promote growth (he is QH and only matured to around 14.1) I am wondering now if a. He was gelded late because he threw solid colored foals (they 'specialize' in paint QH) or b. He never dropped the other teste and they had the vet do what he could in the field.
I guess I shouldn't have used the term "proud cut" because I don't know that that is true. Around here "proud cut" is more a colloquial term used to describe any gelding with excessively studdy behaviors, but really it's improper usage. The term is supposed to apply to incorrect gelding, when the spermatic cord is not also crushed. Twister had been used as a breeding stallion and gelded late - however I got all his medical records when I had purchased him and knew he had been gelded by a vet I know well and respect so I doubt the procedure was done incorrectly. He just retained behaviors - no doubt due to his late gelding.
My current gelding Claymore is the same in some ways - although he only rarely mounts the mares, he does frequently drop and hover around the girls when they are in heat. He was also used as a breeding stallion until age 6, I know he was gelded as that was one of the requirements I insisted upon before purchasing him, I got the vet records and he was still healing from his gelding when I got him.
I do not know about the assumption that a cryptorchid being unable to produce sperm - since cryptorchidism is an autosomal sex-linked recessive gene, (passed father to son) I assume SOME of them can still breed.