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post #1 of 14 Old 06-05-2011, 04:34 PM Thread Starter
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my horse got breed at boarders facility

Legal guestion. my horse could possibly be pregnat by other boarders horse.
the story goes...

We bought a horse from a place that boards. we contunued to board her their for two months. in the mean time the boarder brought in a gelding that acting like a stallion. the mares were in heat including mine. He was chasing the mare around like crazy. I was continuously encouraged that this horse was a Gelding. well we moved our mare. she was around the crazy horse for approx two weeks. Now i find out that 4 out of the six mares there are now pregnant from this crazy a$$ horse. well the story gets deeper. the boarder says he has a coggins from the owner of crazy horse that shows him to be a gelding. but when the vet came out to check crazy horse again they said that one of his testicles dropped. what the heck. now the boarder says he is not liable.

I want the boarder to send a vet out to check my horse. I am wiling to pay vet bill if my mare is not pregnant . but if she is i want him to pay the vet bills.

Do I have a leg to stand on here. Please help.
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post #2 of 14 Old 06-05-2011, 06:01 PM
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From the information you provided, I would say no, you don't have a leg to stand on - of course there could be more pieces to the puzzle.

But from what you are saying, it is entirely possible, perhaps probable, that the owner was unaware there was a testicle that hadn't dropped. Then in turn, the BO had the word of the owner and a coggins test as evidence he was a gelding, so he/she is certainly not responsible. The fact that he was chasing mares around obvisously should have raised enough of a question to check him out, but I doubt that in and of itself would be sufficient grounds for liability. That behavior is not so uncommon as to be extraordinary.

Once again, there may be more to the picture, but I don't see any liability with the information you provided...
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post #3 of 14 Old 06-05-2011, 06:03 PM
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Is it too late to lute the mare and abort the pregnancy?
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post #4 of 14 Old 06-05-2011, 06:45 PM
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That stinks! I agree you probably don't have grounds for legal recourse but the owner should on good faith want to take care of it. At least I know I would if I were in their shoes.

Like Bubba asked, how far along is she? I'd definitely lute her if it is an option.
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post #5 of 14 Old 06-05-2011, 07:17 PM
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I agree^

Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.
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post #6 of 14 Old 06-05-2011, 07:37 PM
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First a coggins does not verify sex of the horse other than what the horse "appears" to be or what the owner claims it is..

A coggins will just verify that this horse is not infected or a carrier of EIA( commonly called Swamp fever). If the Vet that did the coggins did not know the horse and looked to see sex, he may not have seen a testicle and took the owners word that the horse is a gelding.

If the vet that did the coggins KNEW the horse then that vet may not know who gelded it, if it wasn't himself. Most rigs don't usually get the mares pregnamt but it is not beyond them to do so.

What is missing here is the AGE of this"gelding".

So what this boils down to is the job the vet did in the gelding and if the owner knew his horse is/was a rig.
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post #7 of 14 Old 06-05-2011, 09:27 PM
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How old is this "gelding" that turned out to be a stallion? I know that my yearling has not dropped his testicles fully yet, one day both or one is dropped, the next they're sucked up again, so he could be mistaken for a gelding depending on his mood The owner didnt know he had a stallion, but, he should do the right thing and help you with the vet bills...
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post #8 of 14 Old 06-05-2011, 10:21 PM
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Well if she is prego look on the bright side, you will be getting a little blessing :) even if it wasnt planned. if she is prego i hope you keep us updated with pics & info and such

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post #9 of 14 Old 06-07-2011, 08:38 AM Thread Starter
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age of crazy horse

I dont know the age of the horse. Just by looking at him i would say 4 or 5 years.

If my horse is prego, she is only about two months.

I talked to the BO the other day and they got nasty with me. I just asked then to send their vet out to check my horse and they refused. They said that the coggins said the horse was a gelding. Well what determines if the horse is a guilding besides the obvious. The vet should have proof. idk... She may not even be prego. I have to have her checked then i will know for sure. He is going to send my a copy of the crazy horses coggins report, but i guess that does me no good.

But I beleave they are responsible for this. The thing is I herd all this thru my 14 year old daughter' friend that boards there also. The Bo did not even have the Decency to call and tell me that I should have my mare checked.
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post #10 of 14 Old 06-07-2011, 08:49 AM
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Get the mare checked sooner than later.

The do some research that does not involve 14yo gossip circles.

If there truly is an issue you can figure out who to take to small claims court to get your money back.

It might very well be the person (boarder) who bought the non-gelding truly thought they were getting a gelding.

Geldings are capable of mounting and penetrating mares.
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