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post #11 of 67 Old 04-11-2013, 07:40 PM
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I keep throwing the idea of this guy around too.... I really like Arts Aero, but I worry that I am blinded by his colour and big jump... Arts Aero (Premium Black Pinto Oldenburg Stallion by Art Deco)
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Of the four you posted, I like Mahattan for your mare. He's got a lovely front end to compensate for her not-so-hot front end.
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The only thing that makes me hesitate about him is he is a bit of a chunky boy when I am looking for something lighter for eventing.

My mares sire was no small boy, so the bigger blood is there.



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I like the look of Manhattan. He has enough substance to make up for your mares lightness but not so much that you would end up with anything too heavy for eventing. He looks to have a good scopey jump in him
A well made TB with plenty of bone would work OK on her though and they do make the best eventers. Not sure whats out there and you need to look at their stock and their lineage to see if they might throw back to anything too flimsy
Lovely mare btw
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I keep throwing the idea of this guy around too.... I really like Arts Aero, but I worry that I am blinded by his colour and big jump... Arts Aero (Premium Black Pinto Oldenburg Stallion by Art Deco)
I've known Samber offspring. Excellent character. AA also brings you 50% TB through his dam, and more plus a strong Trakehner line through Samber. Worth considering, IMO
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I like the look of Manhattan. He has enough substance to make up for your mares lightness but not so much that you would end up with anything too heavy for eventing. He looks to have a good scopey jump in him
A well made TB with plenty of bone would work OK on her though and they do make the best eventers. Not sure whats out there and you need to look at their stock and their lineage to see if they might throw back to anything too flimsy
Lovely mare btw
Thank you jaydee. I am lucky enough that Kathy from Avalon is lovely to talk to and very honest as well as helpful, so I will talk to her about Manhattan. I have also talked to AFR's owner lots over the last few years. I love it when stallion owners will give you suggestions of other stallions outside their program that would compliment your mare for what you want. It speaks volumes about their credibility. If I don't breed her to AFR I will be on a hunt for one of his foals. I have been crushing on him for years now
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I've known Samber offspring. Excellent character. AA also brings you 50% TB through his dam, and more plus a strong Trakehner line through Samber. Worth considering, IMO
Hmm good to know... I know Arts Deco was pretty darn awesome and I have heard that Arts Areo carries those traits of his father. I have heard about Samber and that he was a lovely stallion as well.

I may have to short list him... I may bump Goldmaker down the list and put Arts Aero up in his place.

Decisions decisions... this is the last foal I will get out of my mare so I want to give myself the best odds I possibly can. This is not a breeding I am taking lightly.
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In these times, no breeding should be taken lightly. But I don't need to tell you that.

If you can narrow it down to three stallions, I would start looking closely at what he needs to improve and closely check offspring to get an idea what he consistently produces. If you can double up on good points, that's great.
Judging possible character/ temperament is getting hard if too much TB is thrown in on the dams sides. Stallions, at least European, especially German, ones, are being rated for character. Most mares are not.

And then......hope that everything works out as planned.
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Just checked out Mannhattan. I like his looks, but see Furioso II up close. He made great sport horses, but some have a tendency to explode for no reason. Last one I saw, with him 4 generations down, did it too. Completely out of the blue, and nothing could be done other than just wait it out.
Not all Furi's are that way, but I've known a few.
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Just checked out Mannhattan. I like his looks, but see Furioso II up close. He made great sport horses, but some have a tendency to explode for no reason. Last one I saw, with him 4 generations down, did it too. Completely out of the blue, and nothing could be done other than just wait it out.
Not all Furi's are that way, but I've known a few.
This is why I am glad I posted here to get opinions. Knowing that, he is off the list. My mare has "moments" and I don't want to breed her to any stallion that has blood in his lines with horses that can possibly bring that trait out in her foal.

As it stands I am now narrowed down to AFR, Jamestown and Arts Aero. And Jamestown and Arts Aero are over taking AFR. But AFR is holding up there because I just love him. But I might end up sticking to my plans of just buying an AFR foal in the future. I love Art Aeros lines. He has some beautiful stallions in his lines that are known to be quiet and throw quality foals. Jamestown is known to throw quality as well and I love love love Selle Francais.
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