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post #11 of 65 Old 04-21-2010, 07:54 PM
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I would think the person that just palpated her would be feeling for a foal not a folical this late in the game
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post #12 of 65 Old 04-21-2010, 08:00 PM Thread Starter
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I uploaded more pic's, but can't figure out how to put them on the thread...
You can click on my profile and my album to view them..
One is of the Vulva...it looks pretty relaxed to me??
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post #13 of 65 Old 04-21-2010, 08:08 PM Thread Starter
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Churumbeque...She U/S her...but for a $25 U/S ?? I'm not too sure... she wasn't a vet... She said she seen fluid... and then she said " O..wait, There's a folicle building..there's no way she could be pregnant" and stopped.
I later read that this could be a ball of poop...if you don't know what your doing or looking at... I also read that some horses still do this when their pregnant... I'm thinking it's kinda one of those situations in which "you get what you pay for" because a week and a half later she has bigger udders, milk, and symptoms of false labor...
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post #14 of 65 Old 04-21-2010, 08:20 PM
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First off, let me commend you for the shape she is in, if she was in poor shape when you got her - she looks fantastic for an 18 year old!

And that very definitely does look like a well dropped and engaged baby belly to me. However 305 days is awfully early to be foaling, could they be wrong on the dates?

Keep checking the milk, it will get very thick and syrupy on top of being white. My mare had white milk for weeks, but the real indication was the change in consistency. Indicators on the milk test are watching for it to get to around the 400+ level (which you said she's already at?) and pH to drop to UNDER 7.0. Sounds like she is really close, her udder doesn't look super full but her teats DO look filled out.

Good luck and keep us posted!


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post #15 of 65 Old 04-21-2010, 08:33 PM Thread Starter
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Indy Horse.. Thank You :) She is our only horse.. and we have 6 kids..so needless to say, she gets really spoiled! I'm sure I have no idea how much this horse really eats,lol.. ( kids sneaking treats )
Thanks for the insight, I'm hoping she will make it at least 320 days...
I'm not 100% on the dates..these people were not the most honest I've came across.. But she doesn't seem "huge" like other horses I seen.. but she is small and the dad horse didn't look big either, he was peppy san breeding... I'm hoping they were telling the truth and this isn't a "thru the fence type of colt".
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OK. The reason I asked was that if she was either palpated or ultrasounded on June 18th, she could have perhaps been pregnant for a week or even 2 weeks prior, and it went undetected.

So if we go 2 weeks prior to June 18 and lets say 10 days after June 18th, her breeding dates could have ranged from June 3rd to June 28th, meaning the farthest along she is likely to be is 321 today.... and the other end of the range would put her at 330 on May 24th (and you can count forward from there.)

That's assuming that the June 18th vet check happened like they say and didn't miss something much more advanced... and also assuming that they did seperate the mare and stallion a week after June 18th as well.

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A lot of QH's won't get very soft around the tail and hip area just because they are a breed with really muscly hind ends. Lol.

I agree your mare looks pregnant. Have you tried sitting out with her for awhile with your hand on her belly? Most foals are active and you could try to feel it that way. I have a mare who was not suppose to be pregnant, but I thought she was (this was before I learned how to ultrasound) and I sat in her stall for an hour with my hand on her belly.....sure enough, I felt the foal kick nice and hard. That was 2 months before birth.

Also, if she is testing in the 300 range of calcium, then I would say that's a pretty safe bet that she's preg. Make sure she is getting her minerals and a good Mare and Foal feed. Good luck!

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First of all, THANK YOU SO MUCH, to all who have posted!!:)
I was in the stall with her feeling her belly...I felt a thump on the bottom of her belly towards her flank area.. much like you would feel a foot in a pregnant womans belly...but I'm not sure... I would have thought it would feel alot stronger? And I don't "see" alot of movemnet??
However, I was so excited about feeling the movement I forgot to take a picture of the milk :( And I'm nervous about milking out what could be colostrum, so I'll wait untill tomorrow night for the milk photos :(
The Milk Ph was 7.5 and the Ca was between 400-500, So the Ph looked lower and the Ca level looked higher??
Her milk looks like " woman's breast milk" ... Not as white as what you buy from the store.. more watery than store bought??
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You won't always feel a lot of movement from the baby. Yet at other times it seems like it might come right through the mare's stomach!

You will know when the milk is colostrum. It will be very white, thick and sticky. And you will usually have wax forming on the teats as well. If it is still fairly watery she probably has at least a few days. However watch her close. I had one mare I looked after that had yellowish, watery milk for days, then one evening it turned white and sticky, got little drops of wax and foaled a few hours later! Every horse is different.

As far as her vulva - it looks fairly long but not quite as relaxed as when they are really ready.
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Anyone wanna give a shot at a foal date??

Does anyone think she could just be fat??
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