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post #1 of 44 Old 10-26-2013, 03:57 PM Thread Starter
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New to the Forum! Excited for my 2014 foal :)

Finally got around to joining Horse Forum. I've been meaning to for a long time! Here is my 2006 APHA solid bred mare "VLB Ultra Hot". She has been shown locally mainly in western and halter events, but can make a cute little english pony when she want to She has some halter points as a yearling at the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo.


She came up with a navicular bone issues this past year that led to an off and on lameness, so I decided to breed her this year to let her rest. She is four months bred to APHA/AQHA Stallion "Solanos Kicker" for a June 2014 foal.


He is a such a stunning stallion that is an NRHA Money Earner and was Top 5 Reining and Working Cow Horse at the world show. He throws stunning babies with a solid mind and lots of chrome. I plan on venturing into the Reining and Cow Horse world with this baby.
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So, your 7 year old...Came up with Navicular changes...and you bred her?

WHY!!!???!!!???

And did you have her tested for OLWS, as well as the stallion? Id almost guarantee both your mare and him carry it. Have you read up on the consequences of Frame x Frame breeding?

Your mare has a lot of conformation faults...And obviously ones that will lead to serious lameness issues and a shortened lifespan.
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Thanks for the concern. She has been OLWS tested negative, as well as the stallion. The stallion owner is a coworker. I don't consider myself an irresponsible horse owner, I would never produce a foal that even had the chance of being a lethal white. I've been around in the horse world long enough and did my own homework before just randomly breeding her.

I am a technician for one of the most premiere equine lameness veterinarians and surgeons in the country. That being said (just wanted you to know I have a wealth of resources when it comes to diagnosing and fixing her problem), she doesn't have navicular bone "changes". There are no holes in her navicular bones, there is no evidence of navicular disease. She has a slight (like 0.2) negative palmar angle, therefore she strained her deep flexor by being stupid in the pasture, and was having trouble fully healing it. That was fixed by some rest and wedges. She is currently sound without injections or bute.

I don't think that this will shorten her lifespan, I kind of lol'd at that.

Thanks for you opinion about her faults, that's why I asked.
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Well, I wish you luck and hope you get the foal you were planning with this cross.
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So, your 7 year old...Came up with Navicular changes...and you bred her?

WHY!!!???!!!???

And did you have her tested for OLWS, as well as the stallion? Id almost guarantee both your mare and him carry it. Have you read up on the consequences of Frame x Frame breeding?

Your mare has a lot of conformation faults...And obviously ones that will lead to serious lameness issues and a shortened lifespan.
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Oh boy.. I think you got just a tad carried away there. I'll never understand how people can so confidently assume the things that they do.
What exactly, might I ask, are the multiple, obvious conformation faults that will lead to serious lameness issues and a shortened lifespan?
I mean REALLY. People really need to take a step back before spewing out their hysterical opinions as if they were facts. I'm getting really sick of it to be honest.

I won't comment on the navicular issue as I'm not familiar enough with it, however I can say that, while your mare is far from perfect, she is a very decently put together horse. Not the build I would personally look for, but that's only because I'm into cow-bred horses

There is something about riding down the street on a prancing horse that makes you feel like something, even when you ain't a thing. ~ Will Rogers
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Thank you so much AnnaLover!!

I will be the first to say that my mare is far from perfect. But then again, some of the greatest horses of all time do not have perfect conformation. Just because they are not "ideal" doesn't mean they can't perform and produce outstanding babies.


P.S. I love cow-bred horses. Their minds are second to none:)
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Yay, another baby watch! <3
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post #8 of 44 Old 10-26-2013, 08:26 PM Thread Starter
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It is so exciting! Even when it's not your own. I will be GLUED to this forum once everyone's babies start arriving!!! : )
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Thank you so much AnnaLover!!

I will be the first to say that my mare is far from perfect. But then again, some of the greatest horses of all time do not have perfect conformation. Just because they are not "ideal" doesn't mean they can't perform and produce outstanding babies.


P.S. I love cow-bred horses. Their minds are second to none:)

No problem Some people just jump on the opportunity to attack new users.. at least that's the only justification I can think of

Exactly- no horse is truly "perfect" of course and although some may get close, that will only ever be a matter of opinion.
I've never been a big fan of the mare CLaPorte bred to be honest, so I wouldn't say she has a ton of room to be talking when it comes to well conformed horses, but hey- you don't see me attacking her over it.. or even bringing it up until now for that matter. *shrug*

ETA: I meant to add- Welcome to the forum! As you have probably gathered already, you'll find some nice people and some... *ahem*.. others that are less-so

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No problem Some people just jump on the opportunity to attack new users.. at least that's the only justification I can think of

Exactly- no horse is truly "perfect" of course and although some may get close, that will only ever be a matter of opinion.
I've never been a big fan of the mare CLaPorte bred to be honest, so I wouldn't say she has a ton of room to be talking when it comes to well conformed horses, but hey- you don't see me attacking her over it.. or even bringing it up until now for that matter. *shrug*

ETA: I meant to add- Welcome to the forum! As you have probably gathered already, you'll find some nice people and some... *ahem*.. others that are less-so

Well thanks for commenting! I was feeling a little put off and not very welcomed....but you changed that! I am excited to be a part of the forum. It's always good to have a place where you can ask questions!
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