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    08-02-2010, 11:39 PM
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Foal
New imported Stallion has landed in Australia

Just got the news...
A Cremello stud book thoroughbred stallion has just landed in Australia.

No new photos of the all grown up Glacial Gold(USA) as yet.

Can't wait...

I've already booked one mare and I am looking for something else special to send to him
     
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    08-05-2010, 10:49 PM
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Green Broke
OOOOOO, a Guaranteed Gold grandson! My my, his blood sure is getting around, all over the globe!
     
    08-07-2010, 06:35 PM
  #3
Weanling
I agree! True Colours must be so proud!
     
    08-07-2010, 07:12 PM
  #4
Foal
I can't wait to see him in the flesh. I do know he will be presented beautifully for the public to see. Congratulations and all the best wishes to Winning Colours Farm
     
    08-11-2010, 03:10 PM
  #5
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Originally Posted by Ozzie Overo    
I've already booked one mare and I am looking for something else special to send to him
I'm just curious, can't you guys do it IA with say Guaranteed Gold himself? Or importing the semen is troublesome (because of the custom or whatever else reason)?
     
    08-11-2010, 05:24 PM
  #6
Foal
No kitten Vale, this horse is a stud book thoroughbred and AI is not allowed. If it was I would have bought GG's semen and had little GG's running around by now. But there is nothing like going and having a look at the stallion you want to choose for your mares. I think that is important
     
    08-11-2010, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozzie Overo    
No kitten Vale, this horse is a stud book thoroughbred and AI is not allowed. If it was I would have bought GG's semen and had little GG's running around by now. But there is nothing like going and having a look at the stallion you want to choose for your mares. I think that is important
Oh, I see. Thanks for explaining! I kinda remember reading that for TBs it has to be live cover to be eligible to register(?), but I never seriously looked into that as I have no intention to breed my girls. I wonder if there is any good reason for that rule.
     
    08-11-2010, 10:14 PM
  #8
Green Broke
^

Mostly due to the racing business being SO lucrative I think. No other breed deals in the dollar amounts quite like you see in Thoroughbred racehorses - and when you're talking in terms of several hundred thousand in stud fees, it's just all the more incentive to get greedy and start switching up semen.

Not that they can't lie with live cover, but you can't fake a live cover. If someone pays you a stud fee, you know it's THAT stud covering your mare and not a vial of Shetland pony "giddyup".

     
    08-11-2010, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
Not that they can't lie with live cover, but you can't fake a live cover. If someone pays you a stud fee, you know it's THAT stud covering your mare and not a vial of Shetland pony "giddyup".
MM, but if the owner doesn't present during a live cover process (or "to witness the process" is a requirement as well? ) then if I have 2 studs how the mare's owner will know which one I use (without DNA testing)? I'd think you can always fake (although it's kinda dangerous with the stud fee that high of course).
     
    08-11-2010, 10:30 PM
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Green Broke
Oh for sure you can, I think it just helps deter people a little. I'm not even sure if that's the exact reason, I just imagine it would be. Weighing the pros and cons with AI, I just don't think the other breed industries are lucrative enough for it to be an enormous issue. I don't believe they DNA test every single registration, it would take to long I think. I know they don't with other registries, so when you have a self regulating system that's dealing in billions of dollars every year, it's weighing the pros and cons.

I would think a stud owner would be a lot less likely to be faking live covers in front of an entire stable full of hired help, not to mention the vets and reproductive specialists on hand. It's definitely easier to hoard fake semen and trick EVERYONE around you.
     

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