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post #11 of 98 Old 03-08-2013, 07:41 PM
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Jalter-- Being horse smart he should know what the best desicion is. I mean we all do have those moments where we find what we think is an "amazing" stallion, then snap back to reality and realize he'd be a better gelding. Among the liability of having a stallion, all of the things you listed, among many other facts people can throw at you. Gelding would be best unless you have an established and functional breeding farm / program. Good luck, I know how tough it can be to persuade our other halves.
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The risk of accidental breedings. A stallion can easily get out of most pleasure horse pastures. Then you have to cover either mare/foal care of the mare he covers or the cost of aborting the fetus. Many boarding stables don't want stallions, particularly if there are children that ride there.

In the end its the horses testicles that are being removed not his. I am willing to bet that none of my geldings stand around everyday thinking "gee I miss my balls". I am pretty sure they think "Gee I wish I had more food, or why won't this other horse play with me". I have never seen a newly gelded horse look between his back legs like "where did they go?".

I once heard a respected horse person say. A stallion wonders around all day looking for a mare and food and is not content without those two things. A mare walks around and once every few weeks is cranky and wants a stallion. A gelding walks around looking for food and friends.
Exactly the answer I was looking for, thanks :P
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Nobody has really mentioned the training/handling issues between stallions and geldings.

Stallions are more difficult to train and you have to be a more proactive handler. No chances to just sit back and enjoy yourself, you always have to be on guard.

After all, stallions are a lot like men. God only saw fit to give them enough blood to think with one "head" at a time .
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After all, stallions are a lot like men. God only saw fit to give them enough blood to think with one "head" at a time .

That made my day xD
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He's actually very horse-smart. He just doesn't think chopping off a horses nuts is fair when he didn't do anything wrong. It's not the horse's fault that he had bad breeding or faulty trainers. I see what he means, but fair or not, its something that needs to be done.
Horses don't have the ability to think abstractly. They cannot think, "Oh gee... just think of how much better my life would be if I still had my testicles." Men who have a tendency to anthropomorphize as well as empathize, on the other hand... ;)

Honestly, cutting off the horse's tail would inconvenience it more then getting it gelded. Let those nuts hit the ground!

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post #16 of 98 Old 03-08-2013, 08:08 PM
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No way, no how would I ever own a stallion unless it was for breeding purposes. My main reason is that they are generally not great around other horses, I want a horse that can be in a herd situation and get along well with others. As far as training and manners, that depends on the horse. My stallion has just as good a mind as most geldings.
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post #17 of 98 Old 03-08-2013, 08:12 PM
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Basically everyone has already covered all the issues. A horse is going to have more emotional hinderance being kept alone without a herd environment than having his coin purse emptied. Horses are meant to be in a herd environment. In the wild it's no problem. A stallion either leads a herd or starts a small band with other younger, weaker bachelor studs and roam like that. In captivity, it is our responsibility to ensure our horses are as comfortable as possible. Usually, a gelding will live longer and have less reproductive system complications than a stallion. How is it fair to leave them intact fully aware of the healthier choice, just because you "feel for him" and don't want his balls chopped off?
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I once heard a respected horse person say. A stallion wonders around all day looking for a mare and food and is not content without those two things. A mare walks around and once every few weeks is cranky and wants a stallion. A gelding walks around looking for food and friends.
This. I see it with machoists and their intact dogs all day long in my profession. It's not a matter of punishment or having rites. Just image being hard wired to do ONE thing and never be able to do it. Eating for a stud is often an afterthought, to scouting out mares. Every horse can be taught manners under saddle/in hand. It's his time just being a HORSE that is compromised.

Take nookie off the table until he changes his mind. It's the same **** thing.
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A lot of men tend to empathize with their pets and really feel guilty getting them fixed. Have the horse gelded. He'll get over it.
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I always like the fact that I have geldings... If I end up with a foal, that gelding sure is going to make me some big $$$! Otherwise, I never have to fret a whoopsie.
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