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        03-09-2013, 07:43 PM
      #31
    Weanling
    I just had my 8 month old gelded yesterday, and these are the reasons I decided to go that route.

    I will be doing trail riding, possibly showing, and endurance racing with him. I wouldn't be able to do ANY of those things if he was a stallion, because most shows won't allow stallions to be present, trail riding would be unsafe because of the possibility of meeting a mare in heat on the trail, and endurance riding for the same reasons. Plus, what reason do I have to keep him intact? He is of very good breeding, has a great temperament, and is registered, but many many horses have those things. I don't have the set up for a stallion, I plan on getting a mare some day (which would not work if I had a stallion!), and I have no plans of breeding.

    Also, gelding is not a huge deal when they that young. The vet puts them to sleep, does the deed, then the colt gets up with no idea of what just happened. He is sore and stiff for a while, but he gets over it quickly and never looks back.

    Talk to your boyfriend and tell him that if he wants your horse to be as happy as possible, have him gelded. A stallion that is not allowed to breed and is in solitary confinement is not a happy horse! Gelding is MUCH better for your horse's happiness in the long run.
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        03-11-2013, 01:29 AM
      #32
    Trained
    My stallion is a true gentleman and I never have to worry or be on gaurd when handling him. More than I can say about a couple of mares that I own.
    Star is handled with a rope halter and can be led through a group of mares even if any are in heat. He talks he prances but he does not pull on the lead or run you over.
    Stallions take more planning and do not respond well to rough handling. If you are not going to breed your horse then there is no incentive to keep him in tact. The extra care, planning, and handling you will need to provide are not worth the effort. Good luck Shalom
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        03-11-2013, 01:39 AM
      #33
    Trained
    It's not true, at least not at the shows I attend, that you can't show a stallion, I did, all up & down the province, Pacific Rim competitions. Trail rode all time, past mares running the fenceline along side the roads we were on, no problems, true test of a well trained horse. As for endurance, I don't know, never did that. However, first & foremost, a stallion is a breeding animal, if you are not going to breed him, be kind and geld him. Makes no sense to have a stallion if you are not going to breed, and it's a headache keeping a stallion, as far as fencing, having other horses with him.
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        03-11-2013, 02:45 PM
      #34
    Green Broke
    Let him get savaged by a stallion a few times and I imagine he will rethink this.

    Stallions are gelded because they can be dangerous, unpredictable, and a danger to everyone that has to be around them, depending on stallion.

    BF needs reality check.
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        03-11-2013, 02:50 PM
      #35
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Palomine    
    Let him get savaged by a stallion a few times and I imaginewill rethink this.

    Stallions are gelded because they can be dangerous, unpredictable, and a danger to everyone that has to be around them, depending on stallion.

    BF needs reality check.
    He figures if you can't handle the stallion, sell It to someone who can. I see his point, I'm just trying to get him to understand the horse would be happier as a gelding anyways. Everyone else has got this just fine before your rude comment was posted.
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        03-11-2013, 03:27 PM
      #36
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    Originally Posted by Jalter    
    He figures if you can't handle the stallion, sell It to someone who can. I see his point, I'm just trying to get him to understand the horse would be happier as a gelding anyways. Everyone else has got this just fine before your rude comment was posted.
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    Perhaps it should be less about his or your ability to handle a stallion and their natural stallion behaviors and more about why he should even be left a stallion. If he was sold down the road as a stallion because he got too much to handle, new owners would either 1. Geld him or 2. Breed him

    There is no reason to keep him a stallion if he isn't going to breed. He will have all the testosterone and no way to release it by breeding. He will require special fencing, only able to interact with geldings or always alone, more training and attention while handling.

    If your boyfriend thinks that it is unfair to take geld a colt when he did nothing wrong, it is more unfair to let him be a sexually frustrated colt that is secluded from any herd environment. You will do the colt a favor by gelding him when he will never be used for breeding. Then he can be a happy horse, run with mares and have a normal life.
         
        03-11-2013, 09:45 PM
      #37
    Weanling
    There are a lot more stallions then people able to handle them properly.
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        03-11-2013, 09:55 PM
      #38
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Jalter    
    He's actually very horse-smart. He just doesn't think chopping off a horses nuts is fair when he didn't do anything wrong. It's not the horse's fault that he had bad breeding or faulty trainers. I see what he means, but fair or not, its something that needs to be done.
    Maybe you could explain how sexually frustrating it would be for the horse to have a sex drive and never get any release. Why don't you cut your BF off and see how long he can go with out any release.
         
        03-11-2013, 10:09 PM
      #39
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jalter    
    He's actually very horse-smart. He just doesn't think chopping off a horses nuts is fair when he didn't do anything wrong. It's not the horse's fault that he had bad breeding or faulty trainers. I see what he means, but fair or not, its something that needs to be done.
    lol its a there isnt a thought of "what the heck what happend to my nuts" like many have said he will be happier because his options in life will be better as a gelding..being riden, around other horse ect. If he is stalion he has little to no options exept breeding and very little play..we gelded our colt when he was a little over a year and he runs and plays and is very happy within the herd. The studs that are at the ranch that I've purchased most of our horses from stand in a small corral with a little shelter and whinnies at the other horses ....i don't think he thinks he's living large because he's intact..good luck
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        03-11-2013, 10:13 PM
      #40
    Trained
    Show him this video. He can see what happens with stallions that are not properly trained.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FMuIwI8vU
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