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        03-12-2013, 04:16 PM
      #51
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    You just never know with stallions - they can be perfect for years and then suddenly change and once its older unless its a real classy horse with proven ability in something no one is going to want to buy it if it starts to become a problem - you're then left with the more risky castrating op and the chances of retained habits afterwards
    If there are other mares in the area he can scent theres a good chance he's going to break out of any paddock to get to them - or injure himself trying.
    Best advice is that you don't buy a stallion in the first place and then the argument wont happen.
         
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        03-12-2013, 04:21 PM
      #52
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    LOL! I may be a shallow know it all, it's possible. But I am a very safety conscious shallow know it all, who has 40 plus years of horse knowledge and experience, most of which involve handling stallions. First for my parents breeding operation and now for my own operations. I, indeed, married a man (I'm not a sir btw) who knew nothing about horses, and even after 22 years of mostly happy marriage catch myself thinking, "Why the H*LL did I marry a non-horseman? Life would be so much easier if......"

    If you truly do know people who have non-horsemen in their lives, then you probably also know that there's no way in the world that they would allow this non-horseman to make decisions/dictate policy about how the horses are cared for, what kind of training/treatment they'd receive or whether or not a horse should be gelded. I don't and have never consulted with my husband on anything pertaining to horses, except whether or not the budget would stand for me to add another one. He doesn't consult with me about his medical practice, so we're even.

    We have a standing joke around here when he tries to overstep his bounds into my business. I hold up a pair of my shorts and ask him, "Who wears these pants? Can you get into them?" In the beginning he fell for it and said, "Well, they're your pants, no I can't get into those, they're way too small.". I replied, "Well sir, if you don't change your attitude, they'll remain too small and you'll never get into them.". He got the hint.
    You missed my point entirely. I am not looking for insults toward my boyfriend and me, I am looking for a list of reasons a stallion would be better off as a gelding.

    As for horse smart, yes he is. He grew up on a ranch, and has been around horses his whole life, though he has been away from horses for at least 13 years. He helped me out all the time with my old horse, and was able to do everything with him just fine (handling, riding, knowing when he was sick or lame, etc).

    He may have missed out on some things, like why a stallion is a horrible idea, but that is because he has never been around stallions. After all the help from people who have, he now understands. People ask questions so they can learn, not so they can get ridiculed for not knowing.

    Anyone can be an expert, but you can't know everything. You may have been around horses for 20+ years, but I'm sure you still learn something new every day. In the horse world, experience may be a big part of the job, but that doesn't mean that someone with questions isn't allowed to learn.
         
        03-12-2013, 04:25 PM
      #53
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
    Here's an idea - maybe articulate a little better and try sounding slightly less like your boyfriend wears the pants and you're just a weak female without a say and maybe we wouldn't jump to those conclusions.

    Clearly you can't read either considering I never stated nor insinuated that you had or were getting a stallion. Good grief.
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    Other people have insinuated that though, so it was a general reply. I was only asking for a list of reasons, not a bunch of insults about my dominance in my relationship, my boyfriend's intelligence, etc. None of those things are even related to the topic.
         
        03-12-2013, 04:36 PM
      #54
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    Originally Posted by Jalter    
    You missed my point entirely. I am not looking for insults toward my boyfriend and me, I am looking for a list of reasons a stallion would be better off as a gelding.

    As for horse smart, yes he is. He grew up on a ranch, and has been around horses his whole life, though he has been away from horses for at least 13 years. He helped me out all the time with my old horse, and was able to do everything with him just fine (handling, riding, knowing when he was sick or lame, etc).

    He may have missed out on some things, like why a stallion is a horrible idea, but that is because he has never been around stallions. After all the help from people who have, he now understands. People ask questions so they can learn, not so they can get ridiculed for not knowing.

    Anyone can be an expert, but you can't know everything. You may have been around horses for 20+ years, but I'm sure you still learn something new every day. In the horse world, experience may be a big part of the job, but that doesn't mean that someone with questions isn't allowed to learn.
    No, I didn't miss your point, but you are missing ours. It's okay. Free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it, so take it or leave it, it doesn't make any difference to us.
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        03-12-2013, 04:39 PM
      #55
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    No, I didn't miss your point, but you are missing ours. It's okay. Free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it, so take it or leave it, it doesn't make any difference to us.
    The advice has already been taken. I was looking for a list of reasons to present my boyfriend. I got it, he understands, we will never have a stallion for longer than it takes the vet to come out to geld it, if we get a stallion at all. And all the advice was great except for the obnoxious crap you and a few others had to throw in there.
         
        03-12-2013, 04:47 PM
      #56
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Jalter    
    As someone said earlier, a great stallion will be an even better gelding. Why would a stallion be a horrible idea if that's the case? If he is an amazing mount, good ground manners, etc, then he would be an even better horse after gelding him.

    I never said a stallion would be a horrible idea....

    If you were smart and wanted to avoid the entire problem of gelding and talking boyfriend into gelding.... I said "don't get a stallion"

    Come on you are making way more out of this than you need to.
    Don't even look at a stallion.

    When I look for a horse I just pass up the stallions ads, you should to.
    You are going to end up with a stallion that neither one of you can handle...

    What a mess.
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        03-12-2013, 04:58 PM
      #57
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Taffy Clayton    
    I never said a stallion would be a horrible idea....

    If you were smart and wanted to avoid the entire problem of gelding and talking boyfriend into gelding.... I said "don't get a stallion"

    Come on you are making way more out of this than you need to.
    Don't even look at a stallion.

    When I look for a horse I just pass up the stallions ads, you should to.
    You are going to end up with a stallion that neither one of you can handle...

    What a mess.
    I won't be looking for a stallion though. But IF the perfect horse happens to be a stallion, I will need to be able to convince my boyfriend that gelding isnt a bad thing that only people who can't handle horses do.
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        03-12-2013, 05:15 PM
      #58
    Showing
    Ok, you need to be creative. Try to come up with an idea where the bf will want to geld this stallion and that it becomes his idea. If it works, no gliggling - he mustn't know, ever. If I wasn't getting thro to hubby I'd have a chat with his best buddy, tell him why and he'd make the suggestion. Hubby would come home with a good idea and present it to me. Sometimes I'd have to inflict pain on myself to keep from laughing. We gals have to be resourceful.
         
        03-12-2013, 05:30 PM
      #59
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    Ok, you need to be creative. Try to come up with an idea where the bf will want to geld this stallion and that it becomes his idea. If it works, no gliggling - he mustn't know, ever. If I wasn't getting thro to hubby I'd have a chat with his best buddy, tell him why and he'd make the suggestion. Hubby would come home with a good idea and present it to me. Sometimes I'd have to inflict pain on myself to keep from laughing. We gals have to be resourceful.
    Haha sounds like a good plan to me. All my bf needed was to see the reasons, he's convinced now. Thank you though :P
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        03-12-2013, 05:38 PM
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    He doesn't like the idea of gelding a stallion because you can't handle it. If you can't handle it, sell it to someone who can.
    Let your boyfriend handle the stallion when he is in heat..nuff said. There is no reason a person who doesn't know what they are doing should have a stallion. Horses can be dangerous animals when not handled properly.. and they are a few more hundred pounds than the cute puppy who got to keep his balls


    Agressive Stallion REFUSED to lay down *LONG*

    Here let him take a look at this one
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