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post #31 of 60 Old 12-25-2012, 05:57 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by Oxer View Post
Did I miss the part of the thread where you told us what breed your mare is? And what the purpose was for the foal?? It kinda' makes a difference in my opinion. If you're breeding for movement, color, jumping ability, height, or temperament... then all of my choices would differ. However, I will say one thing... In regards to the Color Guard stud. We have 2 mares out of the Escudo line, both of which are huge jumpers. Unfortunately they are the most unpleasant mares i've ever known. They are consistently confused with being studs, as they will lop your head off if given the chance! Haha! Eeek!
Nope, you missed the OTHER thread about those things! Haha She's 1/4 Arabian and 3/4 draft... we've shown in a wide variety of disciplines, but she is also at times used for work in the mountains (packing and riding). I use her every year for hunting trips. I love her versatility, temperament, toughness, and build... however, I would also appreciate a bit more athletic ability (a more proportionate neck/back would help), and height would be great too as she is only maybe 14.3hh or 15hh at the VERY most. The resulting baby would be used for a variety of things, but I'd love to get more into dressage and jumping. I've planned for years on breeding River, and I think a TB or wamblood influence would be awesome for athleticism, height, etc... while maintaining some of her solidness and *hopefully* temperament. I had been looking for a NICE stud with colour who would compliment her build, but have been having a hard time with that.

And oh yikes... that is REALLY good to know! Honestly, I really do love the looks of Color Guard as well as everything I've read about him, but I think he's off the list for several different reasons. If I had a lighter mare without River's short neck I'd consider it, but temperament aside I don't think he suits her build as much as some of the other studs.

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Wouldn't it be cool if you could put a picture of your mare in and submit a picture of the stallion and see what your foal would truly look like? Kind of like when you put your picture in and try different hair do's out on the computer. Ha ha Sure would save a lot of grief.
Haha that would be pretty amazing!!

I guess in the end I'm HOPING to improve on several thing conformational aspects with River... but even if the foal comes out a short, stocky, bay coloured carbon copy of her, I'd be completely happy. That doesn't mean I can't try though!

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you really need to look at offspring to see what the stud has produced in the past. Just because a stud has big headquarters doesn't mean he passes that trait on. Some studs are considered "lucky draws" or what they call them here anyway and its a stud from a mare and sire which both have several confirmation flaws and are not desirable to breed but the foal come out stunning.
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Originally Posted by QuarterCarolina View Post
How about the Sabino Thoroughbred Stallion Panoramic?

Heres a link to his page, you can view photos of his foals and himself to give you an idea of what he produces.

His owner states "With his height, elegance and type, Panoramic will improve heavier built mares and will be a perfect cross on heavier Warmblood and Draft cross mares as well."
He has been sold overseas. Even if he were available, the same person that has GG had him, and that is a farm to stay far, far, far away from.

You mare's neck is too short for Color Guard. MUCH too short. The Sempatico's are very limited in ability and just not that nice. I don't like SOTA for the reasons stated on the other thread. Diamnod Hit, Diamond Stud's sire can throw quite heavy, so not a road I'd go down at all. Nice stallion, but not for your mare. Glorioso Noir might be ok, but I don't love it. Goldmaker would probably be my pick of the boys on your list, but I still don't love him with your mare either.

Actually, here's an idea, and he has the BEST owner in the business, Escudo II. Smaller, so you won't get a 17h giant, should improve on your mare in the areas she needs help and give you something that will do what you want. Escudo II | Rainbow Equus Meadows
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breed her to the famous showjumping stallion Flexible. He's on the small side.

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Out of the stallions you listed i'd pic Glorioso Noir to compliment your mare best. I like color guard but he is bigger bodied & doesn't have the finer longer neck I don't think that you were wanting to help improve on your mare's.I know in previous thread it was suggested to perhaps looking at arab studs for your mare. Think that is something to explore actually. Saw this stud & he's a looker,babies look nice too! Chase N It Farm - Rhocky Rhoad Arabian
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I think Glorioso would cross well with your mare based on conformation, but his video did nothing to impress me. Goldmaker would cross very well with her as well, in my opinion, and I like him better overall.
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I really appreciate the way your mare is built. I think her and a nice warmblood will fetch you a very nice little sport horse. You'll have to let us know how you choose!

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post #38 of 60 Old 12-26-2012, 11:22 AM Thread Starter
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I really appreciate the way your mare is built. I think her and a nice warmblood will fetch you a very nice little sport horse. You'll have to let us know how you choose!
Thanks, and I hope so too :)

Painted pastures, the ONLY problem with an Arab is that I'm really trying to add some height AND strive for a bit more athleticsm. I honestly do not know much about Arabs, but I DO know that I haven't seen many who are actually that successful in dressage, jumping, gymkhana, etc.... but I suppose there ARE Arab reiners...hmm

He is gorgeous and from what I *do* know of Arabian lines, his pedigree looks good. The website is a bit weird - seems unprofessional, but I guess you can't draw conclusions based purely on that! His foals are pretty impressive!

I did look a bit at Anglo Arabs but didn't find many nice stallions.

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Originally Posted by equiniphile View Post
I think Glorioso would cross well with your mare based on conformation, but his video did nothing to impress me. Goldmaker would cross very well with her as well, in my opinion, and I like him better overall.
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Just because no one else has mentioned Goldmaker, do you mind me asking why YOU think he'd cross up well with Riv?

I do see a few things I don't like about him, but also some that I do so it's hard to decide lol.
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Sure, let me tell you what I see now that I'm on my laptop.

Goldmaker is slightly over at the knee, as is your mare, which is something I like in a performance horse. Many racehorses are bred to be slightly OATN because it's believed that it aids in longevity and holds up well to concussion. His shoulder is near-perfect, which will hopefully improve on your mare's slightly upright shoulder. Goldmaker has a very solid build. He's not as refined as some of the other horses you're considering, but he will hold up well to what you want, which is an all-around STURDY horse.

There are several things I don't like about him, though. His hindquarter is decent but not fantastic, which is unfortunate, as that's something you definitely want to improve upon with your mare. He doesn't have a huge amount of bone, but that's not something I would worry to much about, as your mare has great, substantiate bone. His neck isn't as long as I'd like, and neither is your mare's, so again....That's something that will not be improved much with this cross. His gaskins are not very strong.

Now that I'm on my laptop and can see the stallions easier, my favorites have changed. At the top of my list are Color Guard, Diamond Stud, and Sempatico.

Color Guard is simply fantastic. His pictures weren't showing up for me before, but now that I can see I simply can't find fault in him, other than slightly-too-long cannons. His shoulder is excellent, his neck gorgeous, and he has fantastic depth of heart girth and a strong hind end. His hind end isn't as strong as I'd like, though this is downplayed in the conformation photo as the photographer is standing in a very flattering place slightly behind the horse.

Diamond Stud is right up there with Color Guard for me, and I feel he would compliment your mare equally as well as CG. His shoulders are massive and have a perfect angle, which will really improve on your mare. His back is short and strong, as is his coupling, though there's something that looks weak to me along the rear of his topline that I can't put my finger on. His neck will be a great improvement to your mare's, and his delicate head is an added bonus. His legs are clean and straight with strong gaskins and great pastern angles. He looks to have strong hooves.

I'm surprised I like Sempatico as much as I do. He has a really nice build that is both solid and athletic. He lacks depth through the girth and is quite slight of bone, especially in the front legs. His hindquarters are nice, though still not as strong as I'd like to see, and his refined neck ties in well to his short back. He has a solid, compact build that I think is just athletic enough to add the right amount of refinement to your mare. I can't see his hooves well in any of the pictures, which concerns me. Your mare looks to have great, solid feet, and I wouldn't want to mess that up.

I'm still a huge fan of Sir Wanabi and think this would be a great cross. Just another stud to consider

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